Reasons NOT to buy the Q3???

[jps1]

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Le 24/10/2023 à 22:43, Olaf_ZG a déclaré :

Pour moi, une raison valable de ne pas l'acheter est que l'on préfère la polyvalence d'un M ou d'un SL à la place.

So what are you doing on forum?

He is tired of always seeing people who criticize this or that material when he has never touched and who listens to the nonsense that is said on the web.

Your place is not here

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[M11 for me]

Am 24.10.2023 um 22:43 schrieb Olaf_ZG:

To me, a valid reason not to buy it, is that one prefers the versatility of a M or SL instead.

Very valid point.

[bobtodrick]

1 hour ago, Sparkassenkunde said:

Constantly negating every response and opinion of real life users here in this thread seems insulting at least in my opinion. Calling others opinions „pure transfiguration and glorification“ or „placebo effect“ isn‘t helpful either. But keep on with listing any issue you find online - it will not bring you nearer to finding out if the camera is good enough for you. If you are truly interested in the camera go out to a Leica store near you and try it out yourself!

It’s called ‘passive aggressive’.

As he says ‘he never insults anyone’…just negatively responds to everyone who doesn’t agree with him.

And has never handled or made an image with the camera.

One can take nearly any product, search forums and find faults.  I guarantee (and we are a Leica dealer) that for every person complaining about the Q3, dozens are happy.  We are not a huge dealer, I’ve only sold a little over a dozen Q3’s….but we haven’t had one complaint.

[wjgoretsky]

I have the original Q and experienced a few minor glitches, which either occur or they don’t. I’ve become accustomed to the quirkiness. I went on a waiting list to get the Q2 but was never able to acquire one and have been on a waiting list for the Q3 since the announcement. I don’t think that Leica considers Canada to be their target market, as the products are nearly impossible to buy. I’ve travelled the world with my Leica Q and I couldn’t be happier. I can only dream of being an owner of a Q3, so if you’re lucky enough to be able to buy one, get it!! Forget the price immediately after it clears your credit card and just ENJOY the marvel of an amazing piece of history. 
Just my thoughts. 

[nicci78]

Real issue is the ugly fat tilt screen. Months later I still found it off-putting. It should have gone the X100V flush screen way.

It is very stiff and it is not possible to tilt it from the left side with a pinch, just like every other tilt screens made by Japanese manufacturers. They are the most ergonomics, the Q3 is not. 

So I don’t care about Q3, I will skip it and look at a better designed (hopefully) Q4 in 4 years time. My Q2 would be good enough until then.

If you got a Q, the upgrade to Q3 is a wise choice for one reason alone : weather sealing IP52. 

[FusionX.Photo]

3 minutes ago, nicci78 said:

Real issue is the ugly fat tilt screen. Months later I still found it off-putting. It should have gone the X100V flush screen way.

It is very stiff and it is not possible to tilt it from the left side with a pinch, just like every other tilt screens made by Japanese manufacturers. They are the most ergonomics, the Q3 is not. 

So I don’t care about Q3, I will skip it and look at a better designed (hopefully) Q4 in 4 years time. My Q2 would be good enough until then.

If you got a Q, the upgrade to Q3 is a wise choice for one reason alone : weather sealing IP52. 

This is almost as big a load of BS as the original post that started this crappy thread. Seriously get a life !!!!!

[Olaf_ZG]

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5 hours ago, jps1 said:

So what are you doing on forum?

He is tired of always seeing people who criticize this or that material when he has never touched and who listens to the nonsense that is said on the web.

Your place is not here

Why can I not be on the forum?

[Le Chef]

44 minutes ago, nicci78 said:

Real issue is the ugly fat tilt screen.

Absolute bollocks and another example of your ignorance. It’s neither ugly nor fat. Maybe you should just skip this forum for all the value you bring in your posts.

Edited October 26, 2023 by Le Chef

[Mikep996]

"Real issue is the ugly fat tilt screen."

 

As I said in another post, I felt the same way about the tilt screen when looking at pics of the Q3 on the internet.  In the Leica shop, with my Q2 in one hand and a Q3 in the other it was almost unnoticeable.  

[M11 for me]

vor 34 Minuten schrieb Mikep996:

with my Q2 in one hand and a Q3 in the other it was almost unnoticeable

And imagine you have a half case around your Q3 (which a lot of users have) then you do not even notice that your Q3 has a tilted screen.

[MindsEye]

On 10/24/2023 at 2:27 AM, newtoleica said:

very strange post... I don't have a Q3 either but I don't assemble a public list of the reasons I'm using to justify not having one... without even having picked a camera up and tried it myself. Sometimes forums are just pain weird....

Agreed. Post is a bit strange. If you don't think it's a good camera, don't buy one. I happen to really like mine. I shoot for my full time living. It's not a primary camera but I find myself using it more and more. As many have pointed out, the "issues" are largely not really issues or have been resolved by firmware updates. In my case, I still have problems with pixelated playback images, in spite of latest firmware. But that's not a deal breaker.

[bobtodrick]

It appears the troll has gone away 😂

[nicci78]

12 hours ago, Le Chef said:

Absolute bollocks and another example of your ignorance. It’s neither ugly nor fat. Maybe you should just skip this forum for all the value you bring in your posts.

The screen is ugly and fat. Sorry to hurt feelings. 
I am untitled to give my opinion. I don’t know why people defend Leica so much for such a lazy design : slap a squarish tilt screen behind the Q2 and shuffle around the buttons underneath the right hand palm. 
Really I am disappointed and I am an absolute fan of the Q system since day one. 
My local Leica store tries to convince me by lending me the Q3 twice, to no avail. I don’t see the benefit of 60MP. Faster AF is neat but not essential. 
Leica lost me on the screen design.
I can’t get over it.

I am patient and will skip the Q3. I hope that the design team will come to their senses and slim down the screen for Q4. Hint make it flushed. 
 

Ultimately I really think that Q2 owners do not need to upgrade. Q1 ones should, not for the tilt screen, nor 60MP, but for the weathersealing. Or just buy a used Q2 for that matter. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by nicci78

[Daniel C.1975]

vor 53 Minuten schrieb nicci78:

The screen is ugly and fat. Sorry to hurt feelings. 
I am untitled to give my opinion. I don’t know why people defend Leica so much for such a lazy design : slap a squarish tilt screen behind the Q2 and shuffle around the buttons underneath the right hand palm. 
Really I am disappointed and I am an absolute fan of the Q system since day one. 
My local Leica store tries to convince me by lending me the Q3 twice, to no avail. I don’t see the benefit of 60MP. Faster AF is neat but not essential. 
Leica lost me on the screen design.
I can’t get over it.

I am patient and will skip the Q3. I hope that the design team will come to their senses and slim down the screen for Q4. Hint make it flushed. 
 

Ultimately I really think that Q2 owners do not need to upgrade. Q1 ones should, not for the tilt screen, nor 60MP, but for the weathersealing. Or just buy a used Q2 for that matter. 

Fair enough. As you said, you are entitled to your own opinion. However, it would help to point out that it is your opinion and not phrasing it as the absolute truth, like „In my opinion..“ or „for my taste…“. … „the new screen design is ugly“ or very simple „I don‘t like the new screen design“

Enough of smart ass(I mean myself, not you)coaching. I honestly agree that from an aesthetic view the Q2 looks a bit nicer, but for me the new button layout and the very sturdy flippy screen works much better - beside so many other improvements, which again are valuable enough for me to justify the upgrade. Others, like you, evaluate this differently for themselves. 
 

Still, while being a thing of debate, I think the design is still great and the Q3 is still a beautiful camera. Just in direct comparison to the Q2 it is a tad less elegant on the back. But  , I mainly use the camera to take photos, not to look at and admire it  

Edited October 27, 2023 by Daniel C.1975

[LocalHero1953]

I wonder if the OP took his/her approach to considering marriage?
I might try this question on ChatGPT. (Safer than trying it out on my wife).

Edited October 27, 2023 by LocalHero1953

[SrMi]

2 hours ago, nicci78 said:

The screen is ugly and fat. Sorry to hurt feelings. 
I am untitled to give my opinion. I don’t know why people defend Leica so much for such a lazy design : slap a squarish tilt screen behind the Q2 and shuffle around the buttons underneath the right hand palm. 
Really I am disappointed and I am an absolute fan of the Q system since day one. 
My local Leica store tries to convince me by lending me the Q3 twice, to no avail. I don’t see the benefit of 60MP. Faster AF is neat but not essential. 
Leica lost me on the screen design.
I can’t get over it.

I am patient and will skip the Q3. I hope that the design team will come to their senses and slim down the screen for Q4. Hint make it flushed. 
 

Ultimately I really think that Q2 owners do not need to upgrade. Q1 ones should, not for the tilt screen, nor 60MP, but for the weathersealing. Or just buy a used Q2 for that matter. 

You are entitled to your opinion, and you are not hurting anyone's feelings. The fact that most Q3 owners like the new design and only a few dislike it (Q3 sells very well) means that Leica got it right.

[CalStanford]

Please don't buy a Q3. Your heart isn't in it, so don't spend $6,000 on it. Simple.

 

I love mine, but you won't love yours. So I'd strongly advise you to pick something else. Life is too short.

[StefanoGili]

1. blurry and unsharp EVF during / after focusing. Sometimes happened, but not a real problem
2. extremely long shutter lag / blackout This is something i don't catch...really, unless you came from a reflex..or a blackout free camera..
3. Long delay after switching on the camera  / long startup time True... but i'm not shooting like a texas gunslinger
4. crops can't be enlarged in the EVF, you only see the frames which makes it extremely difficult to compose e.g. 70mm images. I bought the camera to have a wonderful 28mm... pictures are made with legs, and 70mm are only some steps over..
5. dust penetration on sensor TRUE AND FU**** DISTURBING... I CANNOT ACCEPT THIS. I got dust on sensor.
6. AF is mediocre and often unreliable. Coming from Sony a7Iv...yes...the SPEED of af sucks
7. EVF starts to struggle / gets laggy in higher Iso  as soon as the ambient light starts to dim Noticed, but only at very high ISO
8. Quality of the paint: gets quickly scratched Hope it will happen soon... i love scratched cameras...
9. quite disappointing battery life (even with 170,00 Euro (!) battery from Leica) - I know problem of most camreas with EFV and mirrorless Got 3 batteries... come on, camera is small and compact, how will the battery last over 600 shots? I personally use only evf, no back screen that is available if I tilt it.

 

My 2 cents

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by StefanoGili

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[FusionX.Photo]

9 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I wonder if the OP took his/her approach to considering marriage?
I might try this question on ChatGPT. (Safer than trying it out on my wife).

Well you can be sure that whoever they married they don’t have a tilt screen .

[Sohail]

I was a massive fan of the Q1. Shot a lot of my best pictures with it. I then bought the Q2. The lens, for me, never really lived up to the demands of the 47 MP sensor. And then when the Q3 came out with a 60MP sensor and a tilting screen, I was hoping for better optical performance. It was a disappointment not to mention the poor lowlight performance. So I ditched the whole Q concept and went with the following:

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Lloyd Chambers, serious camera gear reviewer, is very scathing of the Q2/3 and for good reason: https://diglloyd.com/blog/2023/20230524_2100-LeicaQ3.html

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... the Leica Q3 with a 60MP sensor, and the lens is now nothing short of pathetic given the demands of the sensor. That is, extreme barrel distortion with distortion correction (required) guarantees poor sharpness over at least half the frame. The standout dilettante lens on the market today. Does Leica have no scruples—the Q3 has a 60MP sensor...! Well, jewelry and fashion has its place too.

It’s not really a 60MP capture—because of distortion correction, 4.5 megapixels are discarded as part of the correction. So it is really a 55.5MP capture, and that’s before the massive stretching-apart of pixels in outer zones. What do you think... does that distinction perhaps fall just shy of marketing fraud?

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by Sohail