evikne Posted October 17, 2023 Share #1 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 with 35mm Summilux v2 Today I wanted to take a picture of my hometown in the fall sun. But the result wasn't quite what I was hoping for. The foreground was perfectly sharp, but the background was a bit blurred in all the pictures. Before I started, I set the aperture to f/8 and focused at the hyperfocal distance according to the lens scale, about 4.5 meters. I ignored the advice to stop down one extra stop on digital cameras. Then I took more photos without checking the settings any further. When I got home, I realized that I had inadvertently touched the aperture ring and all the photos had been taken at f/5.6. With these settings, my DOF app showed that I only had an acceptable focus to about 10-15 meters. No wonder the background wasn't really sharp. In addition, I was there at the wrong time. The sun had already moved so far west that the left side of the image was in shadow. Tomorrow I'll try again a little earlier in the day, and double check all the settings on my camera! Edited October 17, 2023 by evikne 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 with 35mm Summilux v2 Today I wanted to take a picture of my hometown in the fall sun. But the result wasn't quite what I was hoping for. The foreground was perfectly sharp, but the background was a bit blurred in all the pictures. Before I started, I set the aperture to f/8 and focused at the hyperfocal distance according to the lens scale, about 4.5 meters. I ignored the advice to stop down one extra stop on digital cameras. Then I took more photos without checking the settings any further. When I got home, I realized that I had inadvertently touched the aperture ring and all the photos had been taken at f/5.6. With these settings, my DOF app showed that I only had an acceptable focus to about 10-15 meters. No wonder the background wasn't really sharp. In addition, I was there at the wrong time. The sun had already moved so far west that the left side of the image was in shadow. Tomorrow I'll try again a little earlier in the day, and double check all the settings on my camera! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383132-lessons-learned/?do=findComment&comment=4877049'>More sharing options...
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grahamc Posted October 17, 2023 Share #2 Posted October 17, 2023 I've done the same thing many times at 5.6 and often chosen to ignore my previous learnings! I like 5.6 generally so sometimes fall into it for landscapes for some unknown reason/habit Look forward to seeing the next photos, this is a very nice composition 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted October 18, 2023 Share #3 Posted October 18, 2023 Wonderful composition and colors! Re-shoot soon; problem solved. 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted October 18, 2023 Share #4 Posted October 18, 2023 Looks like you have a beautiful home town. Thanks for sharing your experiences. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted October 18, 2023 Share #5 Posted October 18, 2023 5 hours ago, grahamc said: I've done the same thing many times at 5.6 and often chosen to ignore my previous learnings! I like 5.6 generally so sometimes fall into it for landscapes for some unknown reason/habit Look forward to seeing the next photos, this is a very nice composition I tend to agree, somehow 5.6 being in the street and landscape probably my preferred aperture almost at any situasion, sometimes i love that soft effects unintentionally @evikne truth to b told, i love the image but everyone might vary in their preferences, softness add souls to her but of course at times we might prefer it to be all sharp 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted October 18, 2023 Share #6 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Hello evinke, Nice photo. An image captured on a sensor/film only has 1 plane of best focus. This image plane is at a right angle to the view of that plane from the lens. "Depth of field" is the degree of unsharpness that is considered acceptable at distances before & beyond the best focus image plane. Added to the declining sharpness on either side of the best focus image plane with most lenses: Lenses with floating elements sometimes have less "depth of field" than other lenses when focusing on the same subject & using the same aperture. As indicated on the respective lens barrels. When I am photographing a subject & I want to include subjects in focus that are in front of & behind the image plane focused on: When I use lenses WITHOUT floating elements: I use a 2 stops smaller setting than what is indicated on the lens barrel. When the depth of field markings on the lens barrel indicates that f4 is sufficient - I would set the lens to f8. And adjust the shutter speed accordingly. If I were using a lens WITH floating elements: I would use a 3 stop smaller setting than what is indicated on the lens barrel. When the depth of field markings on the lens barrel indicates that f4 is sufficient - I would set the lens to f11. And adjust the shutter speed accordingly. You might try this on A VERY SOLID TRIPOD even if you don't use a tripod very often. And compare it to other settings for the same scene. Because, without a stable base to compare with: There are too many variables introduced when doing hand held photography. Even tho all of us have wonderful photos taken at f2 & 1 second, handheld. Best Regards, Michael Edited October 18, 2023 by Michael Geschlecht 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share #7 Posted October 18, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I agree with those who say that everything doesn't always have to be sharp. I usually like a slightly blurred background myself (and sometimes very blurry), but in this case the church in the background was perhaps the most important thing to have in focus. But if I had focused directly on it, I would have wasted a lot of DOF behind it instead of using it on the foreground. Therefore, I decided to try using the hyperfocal distance, which went a bit wrong, because I'm not so used to it. But I'm afraid the sky isn't as nice today, and rain is forecast for the whole next week. And after that, there might not be many leaves left on the trees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share #8 Posted October 18, 2023 Today I had the opportunity to take the pictures again, at a better time and with better settings (not that the difference is so visible in this forum, but I can see it well on my screen at home). All images were taken at f/11, ISO 200 and 1/250th sec. The focus was set to the hyperfocal distance of f/8, about 5 meters. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383132-lessons-learned/?do=findComment&comment=4877605'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) A slightly different perspective completely changes the foreground. Can't decide which one I prefer. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 18, 2023 by evikne 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383132-lessons-learned/?do=findComment&comment=4877606'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) I soon realized that 35mm was too narrow. Here's a panoramic shot of the canal boats stitched together from three images in LR. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 18, 2023 by evikne 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383132-lessons-learned/?do=findComment&comment=4877607'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share #11 Posted October 18, 2023 And here is one made up of four images. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383132-lessons-learned/?do=findComment&comment=4877608'>More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted October 20, 2023 Share #12 Posted October 20, 2023 #9 for me - the soft curve of the foliage in the foreground frames the mid and distant areas resulting in a very pleasing image. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted October 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Keith (M) said: #9 for me - the soft curve of the foliage in the foreground frames the mid and distant areas resulting in a very pleasing image. Thank you, I agree. I like the yellow foliage in #8, but #9 has a cleaner composition and shows more of the water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelmer Posted October 20, 2023 Share #14 Posted October 20, 2023 #8 for me. I like the yellow touch in the foreground. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted October 20, 2023 Share #15 Posted October 20, 2023 vor 23 Minuten schrieb Lelmer: #8 for me. I like the yellow touch in the foreground. Same for me, the yellow touch helps to boost the autumn vibe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share #16 Posted October 20, 2023 Here is a super wide panorama merged from four images: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383132-lessons-learned/?do=findComment&comment=4878656'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share #17 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) And another panorama, merged from three shots. I like these colors. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All shots look completely different when you click on them for high resolution, at least here on my screen. Edited October 20, 2023 by evikne 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All shots look completely different when you click on them for high resolution, at least here on my screen. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383132-lessons-learned/?do=findComment&comment=4878660'>More sharing options...
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