SrMi Posted October 12, 2023 Share #1 Posted October 12, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica says that the latest Adobe update supports LPC with the Q3 DNGs. “Adobe fixed the issue with their latest version of Lightroom. Also, under preferences / presets / global, the customer will need to select “camera settings” not Adobe Standard.” I have tried it with samples downloaded from DPR and LPC does not seem to work with Q3 files. Can anyone confirm that LPC works with Q3's DNGs and the latest Adobe update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 Hi SrMi, Take a look here Does latest Adobe update (LrC 13.0) support Q3's Leica Perspective Control?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest Posted October 12, 2023 Share #2 Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) It doesn't seem to be working for me. With my M11 images the perspective is corrected when I press the "Guided" button in the "Transform" tab. With my Q3 images the image isn't adjusted and I just get the option to manually adjust the guide lines. I've tried with "Adobe Default" and "Camera Settings" as the import preset. Perhaps someone else may have more success. edit.. I've also tried it with "Guided Upright" from the "Tools" menu in the Develop tab. With the M11 images the perspective quadrilateral momentarily shows and the perspective is then fixed. With the Q3 nothing but the guide lines are available. Edited October 12, 2023 by Corius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted October 16, 2023 Anyone else? Could you please test so that I can let Leica know. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted October 21, 2023 Share #4 Posted October 21, 2023 I wait for 13.0.2 or higher. The version 13.0.1 won't start on the Mac. But the statement of Corius is not encouraging. Is it Leica or Adobe doing a bad job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2023 Share #5 Posted October 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, M11 for me said: The version 13.0.1 won't start on the Mac. Works on my MacBook Pro (M1). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share #6 Posted October 22, 2023 21 hours ago, Studienkamera said: Works on my MacBook Pro (M1). LrC 13.0.1 works well on Ventura 13.5.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted October 22, 2023 Share #7 Posted October 22, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 5 Stunden schrieb SrMi: LrC 13.0.1 works well on Ventura 13.5.2. It depends on the HW. Unfortunately a general statement is not correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share #8 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, M11 for me said: It depends on the HW. Unfortunately a general statement is not correct. Yes, that is what I read. A general statement that it works or does not work is wrong, as it depends. Edited October 22, 2023 by SrMi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertynm Posted November 1, 2023 Share #9 Posted November 1, 2023 Am 12.10.2023 um 23:03 schrieb Corius: Perhaps someone else may have more success. I just tried this as I was curious. The perspective corrected image briefly shows in the preview but once it loads the raw data in the develop tab, LR completely disregards the perspective corrected crop. So it's either not embedded in the dng file (unlikely) or LR can't read the data from the Q3 dng (more likely). Bummer, hope they fix it soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted November 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Qwertynm said: I just tried this as I was curious. The perspective corrected image briefly shows in the preview but once it loads the raw data in the develop tab, LR completely disregards the perspective corrected crop. So it's either not embedded in the dng file (unlikely) or LR can't read the data from the Q3 dng (more likely). Bummer, hope they fix it soon. The necessary information is embedded, but Adobe needs to apply it. The bug is with Adobe, and Leica is pushing for a fix. Strangely, Leica engineers think it was fixed, but it is not (tested with LrC 13.0.1 and Q3 1.3.0). I have pinged Leica again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2023 Share #11 Posted November 2, 2023 18 hours ago, SrMi said: The necessary information is embedded, but Adobe needs to apply it. The bug is with Adobe, and Leica is pushing for a fix. Strangely, Leica engineers think it was fixed, but it is not (tested with LrC 13.0.1 and Q3 1.3.0). I have pinged Leica again. Adobe say that this is not implemented in LRc for the Q3, and it is now considered by them as a new feature request. There appears to be a big gap in understanding between Leica and Adobe! See this thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-perspective-correction-from-camera-metadata-not-supported-for-leica-q3/idc-p/14204926#M20340 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share #12 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Corius said: Adobe say that this is not implemented in LRc for the Q3, and it is now considered by them as a new feature request. There appears to be a big gap in understanding between Leica and Adobe! See this thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-perspective-correction-from-camera-metadata-not-supported-for-leica-q3/idc-p/14204926#M20340 Thanks for the link. Posted a comment to that thread. Edited November 2, 2023 by SrMi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 3, 2023 Share #13 Posted November 3, 2023 See the latest update on the Adobe Forum. John Rellis has very kindly written the routine/script for Leica and Adobe to pick up the Q3's perspective correction (and maybe cropping) from the metadata on the DNG, which does definitely include this information. So Adobe and Leica, John has done the work for you, all you need to do is to incorporate this routine in LR and issue it as an update. https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-perspective-correction-from-camera-metadata-not-supported-for-leica-q3/idc-p/14207551#M20351 . He is very generously offering this for free with the full routine shown on the Adobe thread above . Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 3, 2023 Author Share #14 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said: See the latest update on the Adobe Forum. John Rellis has very kindly written the routine/script for Leica and Adobe to pick up the Q3's perspective correction (and maybe cropping) from the metadata on the DNG, which does definitely include this information. So Adobe and Leica, John has done the work for you, all you need to do is to incorporate this routine in LR and issue it as an update. https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-perspective-correction-from-camera-metadata-not-supported-for-leica-q3/idc-p/14207551#M20351 . He is very generously offering this for free with the full routine shown on the Adobe thread above . Wilson Adobe's products must already have that code as it works for other Leica cameras that support LPC. What is missing is enabling the algorithm and quality testing of the code for Q3. Edited November 3, 2023 by SrMi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted November 7, 2023 Adobe added LPC support for Q3 in the latest ACR V.16.0.1. The Lightroom update is still pending. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertynm Posted January 7, 2024 Share #16 Posted January 7, 2024 I'm on LR Classic Version 13.1, Camera RAW 16.1 and perspective control seems to be implemented into Lightroom now when choosing the guided option, the image gets cropped to the correct upright position, even tough I didn't activate the perspective control in camera. Can someone check if that's true for them too or if I'm seeing a fluke? thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Dieleman Posted January 7, 2024 Share #17 Posted January 7, 2024 3 hours ago, Qwertynm said: I'm on LR Classic Version 13.1, Camera RAW 16.1 and perspective control seems to be implemented into Lightroom now when choosing the guided option, the image gets cropped to the correct upright position, even tough I didn't activate the perspective control in camera. Can someone check if that's true for them too or if I'm seeing a fluke? thanks Same here. Lightroom 13.1 on macOS Ventura 13.6.3. Perspective control in the Q3 (firmware 1.3.0) is off and upon loading the DNG into Lightroom, Transform is in the "Off" state. Once I click on "Guided", the guide lines appear along the edges of the frame and the perspective is changed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 7, 2024 Share #18 Posted January 7, 2024 Is it also picking up pre-selected in Q3 camera cropping on the DNG images? I have been overseas for the last few weeks and just running Adobe updates at the moment. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Dieleman Posted January 7, 2024 Share #19 Posted January 7, 2024 5 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said: Is it also picking up pre-selected in Q3 camera cropping on the DNG images? I have been overseas for the last few weeks and just running Adobe updates at the moment. Wilson Yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertynm Posted January 7, 2024 Share #20 Posted January 7, 2024 (edited) Does it work for older images for you @Ad Dieleman? I have images from 15/12/23 that work and images from 10 days prior that do not work with perspective control in LR. Edited January 7, 2024 by Qwertynm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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