M11-D?

[Robert Blanko]

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vor 33 Minuten schrieb Knorp:

Obviously they still have to figure out their firmware  … 

And maybe they will also modify the case with a removable backplate and a small display underneath so that the user can have a guess whether the camera is frozen or not - just in case…

[Krusty]

vor 12 Minuten schrieb fenykepesz:

very disappointing - i thought and hoped so much that this feverish m11d nirvana and related m10d selling frenzy would be finally over by this morning.  who cares about black paint - just gimme me that working box...

on a second thought : perhaps they just need more time to attach a new bauhausian-stylish thumb grip - nota bene, foldable !

hopefully with a thumb grip where you can charge your Battery (e.g. 10 Twists create energy for shooting 36 new pictures)

[leitz_minolta]

My sources tell me they are announcing the M14 instead. M14-D coming in July. Leica rocking chairs in November.

Edited May 16, 2024 by leitz_minolta

[Smogg]

2 hours ago, Robert Blanko said:

And maybe they will also modify the case with a removable backplate and a small display underneath so that the user can have a guess whether the camera is frozen or not - just in case…

There will be a separate small screen with a freeze counter, powered by an independent tablet battery

[leitz_minolta]

2 hours ago, Krusty said:

hopefully with a thumb grip where you can charge your Battery (e.g. 10 Twists create energy for shooting 36 new pictures)

awesome idea if possible. a user-replaceable sensor would be cool too. that would make this digital Leica last as long as their film M's

[Krusty]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Krusty:

hopefully with a thumb grip where you can charge your Battery (e.g. 10 Twists create energy for shooting 36 new pictures)

the idea of charging a Leica with a thumb grip is not my idea. The Idea is not from me but from Dr. Andreas Kaufmann himself... He told in a Podcast that this was also one Brainstorming Idea / Concept for the Leica M-D. You can listen it here: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/leica-enthusiast-podcast-fotopodcast-mit-michel-birnbacher/id1471816536?i=1000532982709

if you do not unterstand, here is what he said (Copied from the automatic generates transcript of the podcast):

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“Was ja auch ein Gerücht war oder ein Wunsch manchmal war, dass die M10D hat ja einen Aufzughebel, also quasi die Daumenstütze in Form eines klassischen Filmspannhebels, der aber tot ist. Also der ist nur dazu da, um den Daumen zu halten. Da war ja eine Zeit lang die Gerüchte und Ideen, dass man den ja als Dynamo verwenden könnte, also zweimal Ratsch und dann kann ich ein Foto machen und brauch dafür nie wieder eine Batterie.”

Von Leica Enthusiast Podcast - Fotopodcast mit Michel Birnbacher: Gespräch mit Dr. Andreas Kaufmann, 24. Aug. 2021
https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/gespräch-mit-dr-andreas-kaufmann/id1471816536?i=1000532982709
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“What was also a rumor or a wish sometimes was that the M10D had a winding lever, so to speak a thumb rest in the form of a classic film tension lever, but it is dead. So it's just there to hold your thumb. For a while there were rumors and ideas that it could be used as a dynamo, so two ratchets and then I can take a photo and never need a battery again.”

 

[algrove]

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52 minutes ago, Al Brown said:

HERE IT IS!

Got the first sample globally.

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The brassing gave it away. 

[fenykepesz]

vor 18 Minuten schrieb Krusty:

the idea of charging a Leica with a thumb grip is not my idea. The Idea is not from me but from Dr. Andreas Kaufmann himself... He told in a Podcast that this was also one Brainstorming Idea / Concept for the Leica M-D. You can listen it here: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/leica-enthusiast-podcast-fotopodcast-mit-michel-birnbacher/id1471816536?i=1000532982709

hallochen Krusty, vielen Dank, thank you for this podcast link - quite an amazing story that A Kaufmann is telling us there !  

[evikne]

3 hours ago, Krusty said:

hopefully with a thumb grip where you can charge your Battery (e.g. 10 Twists create energy for shooting 36 new pictures)

Maybe I should wait for this to become a reality!

Edited May 16, 2024 by evikne

[darlesch]

I predict the release was delayed a month because there is a new firmware update coming within the next month to fix the freezing issues.

[Smogg]

3 hours ago, darlesch said:

I predict the release was delayed a month because there is a new firmware update coming within the next month to fix the freezing issues.

It's a shame, but this shows that Leica has taken the problem seriously this time and wants to restore its tarnished reputation by releasing a high-quality, lag-free product. This actually means official recognition of the problem. I love this honest Leica more.

[hmzimelka]

44 minutes ago, Smogg said:

It's a shame, but this shows that Leica has taken the problem seriously this time and wants to restore its tarnished reputation by releasing a high-quality, lag-free product. This actually means official recognition of the problem. I love this honest Leica more.

An unsubstantiated claim.

[costa43]

I doubt this will be black paint. Leica will surely keep that in the locker to clear out the remaining stock of m11s before the m12 is released. 
 

edit : thinking about it, two black paint cameras could happen as this one is a specific enough design to differentiate from the standard model. 

Edited May 19, 2024 by costa43

[darlesch]

8 hours ago, Smogg said:

It's a shame, but this shows that Leica has taken the problem seriously this time and wants to restore its tarnished reputation by releasing a high-quality, lag-free product. This actually means official recognition of the problem. I love this honest Leica more.

I think a screenless, freezing M11 camera would be quite a story. 

A Reddit user was in contact with a higher up Leica spokesperson who said a new firmware update is coming "within the month" to address the uptick in freezing issues with FW 2.02. Couple this with the news that LeicaRumors said the M11-D is delayed to June... it makes sense what is going on. 

Keep in mind all the M11-D cameras are already manufactured, boxed, and ready to go (for example an M11-P bought on release showed manufacture date that was months prior to release). A delay at this point is not because of production but likely firmware related.  

[evikne]

12 minutes ago, darlesch said:

Keep in mind all the M11-D cameras are already manufactured, boxed, and ready to go (for example an M11-P bought on release showed manufacture date that was months prior to release). A delay at this point is not because of production but likely firmware related.  

I wonder, will they have to open all the boxes and install the new firmware, then pack them up again? 🤔

[darlesch]

11 minutes ago, evikne said:

I wonder, will they have to open all the boxes and install the new firmware, then pack them up again? 🤔

When the M11-P was released users had to update to FW 2.0.1 released at the same time to access the content credentials functionality. Didn’t come out of the box ready.

Edited May 19, 2024 by darlesch

[kkm]

vor einer Stunde schrieb evikne:

I wonder, will they have to open all the boxes and install the new firmware, then pack them up again? 🤔

Expect some work on your site 😉

[Warton]

On 4/21/2024 at 2:45 AM, Kiwimac said:

OOI do we think the D version will be more expensive than the current most expensive model, the Monochrom?

Of course it’s going to be more expensive. This is Leica spirit: the less is more: We give you less and charge you more.

And Leica users buy into this kind of crap and gaslighting ourselves: we are the purist and minimalist! 

[Kiwimac]

8 hours ago, Warton said:

Of course it’s going to be more expensive. This is Leica spirit: the less is more: We give you less and charge you more.

And Leica users buy into this kind of crap and gaslighting ourselves: we are the purist and minimalist! 

I asked my dealer. A new Monochrom is just shy of NZ$18,000 now. 
 

He suggested any special editions etc of the 11 would exceed $20,000 and the 12 might too. 
 

At that point, they officially become stupidly expensive. IMO. 

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[Bohns]

15 hours ago, evikne said:

I wonder, will they have to open all the boxes and install the new firmware, then pack them up again? 🤔

No.

Leica Stores, as usual, will deal with it before shipping.

Same with new M11, M11-P and M11-R already produced and packed.

Edited May 20, 2024 by Bohns