Two Questions about SL 24-70 lens and 35 f2 lens

[aspherical]

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1. How many of you own the 24-70. I know it's made in Japan. How good is it?

 

2. How good is the cheaper version of the 35mm f2 lens ($2100 vis $5000 something)?

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[huwm]

1. 24-70 better than the Sigma version in 'feel and handling' and possibly image quality, I had dust in my Sigma version which they fixed but I moved it on in favour of the Leica

2. not used the Lumix S 35mm but I prefer the Leica version to the Sigma f2, the Sigma f1.4 is definitely better but bigger than the APO

[hamey]

Personally I love my 24-70mm, very impressed with the images I am getting out of it, wish it was a little smaller, similar to the size of my 35-70 F4 R lens, but at 2.8 it won't be easy.

As MADE IN JAPAN, my 35-70mm F3.5, (Minolta version) 35-70mm F4 and 80-200mm F4 R lenses are all made in JAPAN, and have never had any issues with them over the last 26 years, If I can remember right my Minolta Version 35-70mm I got it around 1984.

Frankly if it has Leica stamped on it, I have no issues what's so ever were it's made.

Ken.

[jaapv]

34 minutes ago, hamey said:

of my 35-70 F4 R lens.

 

This  is the lens I prefer over the (Sigma) 24-70 for the images it produces. 

[epand56]

19 hours ago, aspherical said:

2. How good is the cheaper version of the 35mm f2 lens ($2100 vis $5000 something)?

Call it cheaper...

[Camaro5]

I have the Leica 24-70 and use it a lot for a variety of things.  It gets overshadowed by the 24-90, but it does hold its own and produces excellent images.  I like it for the constant aperture vs. a variable-aperture zoom.  

I don't have the newer 35mm F2 but do have the SL 35mm f/2 APO Summicron and it's one of my all-time favorites.  Images are very impressive.  

This was taken with an SL2-S and the 24-70 from a moving train:

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[hamey]

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13 hours ago, jaapv said:

This  is the lens I prefer over the (Sigma) 24-70 for the images it produces. 

I'am also very impressed with the 35-70mm F4, However Jaapv, I find the images from the 28-90 R  are more vibrant, nevertheless both are wonderful lenses.

Leica got it right with the SL System. 

Ken.

[goodbokeh]

aspherical, I have the Leica 24-70 on my SL2. My tests show it is in the same performance class as my (well regarded) Sony 24-70/2.8 GM II on my 50MP Sony A1.

When I originally tested the two zooms the Leica was really thumping the Sony at 50 & 70mm. So I sent the Sony in for service. A month later I got the GM II back with parts changed, the lens cleaned and calibrated. The GM II's 50 & 70 mm performance is now much improved. In general terms (resolution at 300%) the Sony is a bit stronger at 24 and 35mm, 50mm is a draw and at 70mm the Leica is a bit stronger.

The Leica 24-70 is a solid lens, so if you want better performance it's time to go to SL APO primes. I have one of those, the SL APO 90/2.0. I'd say the 24-70 is very similar in the construction quality. If you're wondering about the Japanese Sigma-Leica (24-70) vs the Portuguese Lumix-Leica (35mm ASPH) well my educated guess is they are similar in construction quality.

[keeping_a_balance]

This one pushed me over the edget to chose L over S.

 

 

[PDP]

i use the 24-70 from Leica, it became my workhorse with very good results. I like the -compared to 25-90 lens- more M-style rendering.

I learned it is better than its Sigma sibling due to tighter specs for production.

[Stonewall Brigade]

I have the Leica SL 24-70mm lens, as well as the Leica SL 35mm, 50mm and 100-400mm lenses. I use them with my Leica SL2, and Lumix S5II and S1R bodies. I would never have bought the original, much more expensive APO primes due to the cost, the I first entered the sl system. I did initially own the Leica 24-90mm lens, and it was great, but I sold it due to the huge weight and size.  It is just overbearing after a day of use. I can attest to my great satisfaction with the image quality, lighter weight, and more affordable cost of what I now own (listed above). I believe the Leica SL 35mm and 50mm lenses are based off of the excellent Panasonic Lumix lenses (compare the specs of the Leica and Lumix to see), while the zooms are patterned from the equivalent Sigma Art series lenses. My 35mm and 50mm lenses are marked as "Made in Portugal", while the zooms are made in Japan. I would never hesitate to own Japanese designed and/or assemble anything (cameras, lenses, cars, stereos, etc.)  Now that I have the Lumix S5II and S1R, I can see that the technology inside a Leica SL2 probably owes its' camera body technology to Panasonic/Lumix. I secret that Leica doesn't mention. You won't be disappointed with any of these lenses.

[Photoworks]

On 8/24/2023 at 9:10 PM, aspherical said:

1. How many of you own the 24-70. I know it's made in Japan. How good is it?

I sent the 24-90 lens to get fixed, and as I wait for it to spend a few months in Germany, I got a used 24-70 from Leica. unfortunately, the lens had lots of dust inside and I had to send it back. I got the equivalent Sigma lens, and in my limited testing, the two lenses performed the same.

all and all the 24-70 is a good lens, 24-90 is better, but also heavy.

On 8/24/2023 at 9:10 PM, aspherical said:

 

2. How good is the cheaper version of the 35mm f2 lens ($2100 vis $5000 something)?

Summicron-SL35 APO to Sunnicron-SL 35?

The non-apo lens is a popular lens for video shooters on Panasonic, it delivers quick focus and small weight and compact design.
The lens is not comparable in image look to the APO35. The Panasonic lens has sharpness falloff to the borders and corners wide open and is better compared to a $600 lens.

Sigma has a lens that is optically in between the 2 Leica 35mm.

The Leica APO lenses are the best of the best that Leica makes. But sometimes you don't want all that details and sharpness. I was just taking portraits with the APO 75 and switched mid-shoot to the noctilus. 

Leica putout many lenses, some are better than others, but as a new user it is really hard to understand the differences, there should be a better description.

[JohnathanLovm]

I have the 24-70, it’s sharp enough for my need and I basically treat it like 4 in 1 prime lens.