Herr Barnack Posted February 13, 2023 Share #1 Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) From Robb Report, a quick look at the making of the new 2022 M6: Quote Leica Just Resurrected Its Legendary M6 Camera. Here’s Every Step It Takes to Make It. https://robbreport.com/gear/cameras/gallery/genius-at-work-m6-leica-1234797734/gaw_leica8/ Edited February 13, 2023 by Herr Barnack 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Huss Posted February 13, 2023 Share #2 Posted February 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Al Brown said: Also, as per slide 9, they DO roll a fillm through each camera, but apparently they only check for transport, not for scratching. Why would they need to check for scratching? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 13, 2023 Share #3 Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) FYI Leica just informed me they don't have the parts in stock to fix my brand new 2022 M6. Which makes this 'genius at work' story darkly entertaining. Edited February 13, 2023 by Huss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted February 13, 2023 Share #4 Posted February 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Huss said: FYI Leica just informed me they don't have the parts in stock to fix my brand new 2022 M6. So the new supply chain is broken too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 13, 2023 Share #5 Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, logan2z said: So the new supply chain is broken too? The new 'in house' supply chain. Where they don't need to rely on anyone else. Edited February 13, 2023 by Huss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted February 13, 2023 Share #6 Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Huss said: FYI Leica just informed me they don't have the parts in stock to fix my brand new 2022 M6. Which makes this 'genius at work' story darkly entertaining. Do they have an M6 in stock to replace your faulty one? That would be a pretty reasonable request at this point! Edited February 13, 2023 by Anbaric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 13, 2023 Share #7 Posted February 13, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nope. Leica informed me they had a bad batch of pressure plates. So not just my camera that is a film scratcher, but apparently whichever ones also received pressure plates from that bad batch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted February 13, 2023 Share #8 Posted February 13, 2023 I suspect a pressure plate redesign is now in the works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted February 14, 2023 Share #9 Posted February 14, 2023 54 minutes ago, hdmesa said: I suspect a pressure plate redesign is now in the works. I've got to imagine that Leica knows how to design a pressure plate after a gazillion years of film camera production. My guess is that this was a manufacturing fault rather than a design problem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted February 14, 2023 Share #10 Posted February 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, logan2z said: I've got to imagine that Leica knows how to design a pressure plate after a gazillion years of film camera production. My guess is that this was a manufacturing fault rather than a design problem You would think so! I had a new M-A that scratched film last summer, so that would have been a pretty big bad batch, but we’ll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 14, 2023 Share #11 Posted February 14, 2023 Ok, here's the glass half full part. At least now Leica has identified that the problem exists, and the cause of the problem. Now how long will it take to get correctly manufactured pressure plates? (cross posted to the scratching thread). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmans Posted February 14, 2023 Share #12 Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Huss said: The new 'in house' supply chain. Where they don't need to rely on anyone else. But 'in-house' is hard to define. What is 'in-house'.... (A) the collecting of the actual material and development of (in your case) the pressure plate or whatever might be causing the issue in their own house'? Or.... (B) is it receiving the pressure plate and all materials and assembling it in their factory, OR.... (C) is it having that particular part already made else-where and putting it together 'in-house"... AND... Does a DUMMY ROLL mean one that is checked for exposure and light leaks and scratches or is it just to seem if the film advances properly, rewinds correctly etc (I think the latter as the article is written) Edited February 14, 2023 by lmans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmans Posted February 14, 2023 Share #13 Posted February 14, 2023 I like that last bit, the very last sentence as is stated: "Having to fight some odds is a great way to apply your mind.” Hmmm...since this might be making reference to the monk and the Dalai Lama, most likely this 'old camera' is a Barnack's Model 11 or 111. Of course it could be a M3 or M2 as well. Either way, Having to fight some odds is a great way to apply your mind, reminds me more of the Current MA than the current M6. 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted February 14, 2023 Share #14 Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) Only the final manufacturing and adjustments are done in germany, gonna be cool if it’s made in portugal, like the M4 in canada Edited February 14, 2023 by jakontil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted February 14, 2023 Share #15 Posted February 14, 2023 vor 11 Stunden schrieb Huss: Nope. Leica informed me they had a bad batch of pressure plates. So not just my camera that is a film scratcher, but apparently whichever ones also received pressure plates from that bad batch. Perhaps they found an old box somewhere in Portugal which was not used back then because of... 🙂 And now the box is empty and the have to make really new parts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted February 14, 2023 Share #16 Posted February 14, 2023 vor 6 Stunden schrieb jakontil: Only the final manufacturing and adjustments are done in germany, gonna be cool if it’s made in portugal, like the M4 in canada The M4-2 was made in Canada. The M4 is the last real Leica from the brass and chrome era. But no problems so far with my trusty M4-2. Just works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted February 14, 2023 Share #17 Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fotoklaus said: The M4-2 was made in Canada. The M4 is the last real Leica from the brass and chrome era. But no problems so far with my trusty M4-2. Just works. Ah yeah apology for the unfamiliarity with m4 line ups, but i love the history, and no im not saying anything different in quality, but it’s just seemed made in special conditions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted February 14, 2023 Share #18 Posted February 14, 2023 16 hours ago, Huss said: Nope. Leica informed me they had a bad batch of pressure plates. So not just my camera that is a film scratcher, but apparently whichever ones also received pressure plates from that bad batch. Personally I still doubt this - people have reported checking and not finding anything on the pressure plate that might cause a scratch. Also, as already pointed out, the pressure plate sits against the film guide rails and isn't really pressing on the film as such, so any sharp point to cause a scratch should have been blindingly obvious to see/feel. If they know of a faulty batch of cameras are they doing a product recall? Another Leica mystery! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted February 14, 2023 Share #19 Posted February 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, earleygallery said: If they know of a faulty batch of cameras are they doing a product recall? Another Leica mystery! Nope - they will continue to sell the camera, counting on most people shooting color and/or not noticing the scratches, and just deal with those who do notice it. A recall would be rather catastrophic for Leica's reputation. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamj Posted February 15, 2023 Share #20 Posted February 15, 2023 Exactly. They’ll deal with this the way they dealt with the batch of bad pressure plates about twenty years ago that no one remembers and is only memorialised in the threads of some forums and also the M8 and M9 troubles of the last few years. It’ll be the usual stage of mystery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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