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Update regarding 1.4/35 Summilux 'steel rim' vignetting with filter & hood.


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1 hour ago, wattsy said:

Heliopan make top quality filters in E34 mount. 

Hi Ian, yes, I tried to order one from Fotoimpex but, since Brexit, the minimum order value has to be over 170 Euros. they suggested I try Silverprint, who were very helpful and did add a filter and a 34mm Heliopan lens cap to an order they made with a German supplier (not Fotoimpex) but after about two and a half months with no delivery we collectively agreed that they could not supply one at this time. I live near the coast so a filter is essential in my opinion. I imagine that the Summaron lens has been quite a success for Leica, so I would be an idea for them to supply a filter for it.

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1 hour ago, Mike Rawcs said:

Hi Ian, yes, I tried to order one from Fotoimpex but, since Brexit, the minimum order value has to be over 170 Euros. they suggested I try Silverprint, who were very helpful and did add a filter and a 34mm Heliopan lens cap to an order they made with a German supplier (not Fotoimpex) but after about two and a half months with no delivery we collectively agreed that they could not supply one at this time. I live near the coast so a filter is essential in my opinion. I imagine that the Summaron lens has been quite a success for Leica, so I would be an idea for them to supply a filter for it.

Does B&H ship to you?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1138312-REG/heliopan_703411_34mm_uv_super_mc.html

Tiffen also makes a 34mm UV.

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1 hour ago, Al Brown said:

Andreas, I am not doubting your decision and I will of course comply, just pointing out that Leica has all their addresses - both info and customer care - published publicly on many places on the web for all their world wide offices including Wetzlar HQ.

First time I tried to contact Leica about an issue, I used the customer email address and got no response. An email to the info address was replied to the next day. "The lights may be on, but no one is home"

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49 minutes ago, Al Brown said:

I do communicate directly with relevant people at Leica, but when used, the info address was about 50% return hit for me, whereas customer.care was about 90%... I guess miles vary for each of us.

Probably two people at Leica calling to each other from one office to the next, "Hey, Al Brown sent a message to "info", but aren't you handling him through the "customer.care" mailbox? Response: "Yes, forward their email to me." Then they forget to forward it.

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I just received mine today. It came with two hoods. I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction regarding how/when to use both of these? One is a screw-in parasol and the other the normal one and I wonder when it would be best to use either one (or neither). I’ve never had both included with Leica glass before. 
The whole kit is a thing of utter beauty by the way. 
thanks in advance. 

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4 hours ago, James1975 said:

I just received mine today. It came with two hoods. I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction regarding how/when to use both of these? One is a screw-in parasol and the other the normal one and I wonder when it would be best to use either one (or neither). I’ve never had both included with Leica glass before. 
The whole kit is a thing of utter beauty by the way. 
thanks in advance. 

 

clip-on hood doesn't allow you to use a filtre, screw-on hood allows but you get vignetting,

pick your poison.

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4 hours ago, James1975 said:

I just received mine today. It came with two hoods. I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction regarding how/when to use both of these? One is a screw-in parasol and the other the normal one and I wonder when it would be best to use either one (or neither). I’ve never had both included with Leica glass before. 
The whole kit is a thing of utter beauty by the way. 
thanks in advance. 

Note that Leica is working on a new lens hood that fixes the vignetting issue when used with a filter. You can contact them and they will send you the new hood free of charge once it's available.

A few questions to you: do you have a wobbling aperture ring? Any front/back focusing? Is the focus ring "sticky" near infinity? Thanks

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52 minutes ago, Qlan said:

Note that Leica is working on a new lens hood that fixes the vignetting issue when used with a filter. You can contact them and they will send you the new hood free of charge once it's available.

A few questions to you: do you have a wobbling aperture ring? Any front/back focusing? Is the focus ring "sticky" near infinity? Thanks

I emailed them this morning with the serial number asking if this was in the bad batch. Awaiting their reply. To answer your question, I’ve only had it twelve hours and shot 8 frames but I’ve not noticed any issues. Nothing sticky or wobbly. The lock at infinity takes some getting used to but it seems perfect to me. 

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1 hour ago, James1975 said:

I emailed them this morning with the serial number asking if this was in the bad batch. Awaiting their reply. To answer your question, I’ve only had it twelve hours and shot 8 frames but I’ve not noticed any issues. Nothing sticky or wobbly. The lock at infinity takes some getting used to but it seems perfect to me. 

Nice, it seems like they corrected those issues now. A lot of people were complaining about wobbling aperture ring and sticky focus ring. And it seems like people who received their lens recently don't experience these.

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I emailed Leica "info at" and asked about the wobble. This is the reply I received...

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the „wobble” in the aperture ring is normal

This is the video I sent them. Anyone want to add their opinion here? They also told me to send it in since I asked about sticky focus. I've heard different opinions from "this is normal" to the wobble being removed from newer batches. Mine is from the November 2022 batch.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Crem said:

I emailed Leica "info at" and asked about the wobble. This is the reply I received...

This is the video I sent them. Anyone want to add their opinion here? They also told me to send it in since I asked about sticky focus. I've heard different opinions from "this is normal" to the wobble being removed from newer batches. Mine is from the November 2022 batch.

 

 

Same wobble on my Nov22 unit, but honestly I did not recognise this as a problem until I have started hearing about this wobble on the net. I am not sure it is a problem. Maybe that my previous Summilux v2 had a "kind of flimsy" body compared to Leicas standard that my expectations are different when it comes to the lux pre-asph? whether this remake or older Sx, I always felt that this model is generally a bit less "solid" and less than perfect in terms of tolerances (vs what I see with the Lux Asph or the APO 35)   

 Regarding the focus, hard to tell, mine is perfect but it is a second hand unit (previous owner used it for a couple of month). Maybe it loosens with time? Even my APO-35 had a very stiff and somehow uneven focus stiffness (harder near infinity) but it kind of loosened with time and now it is ok. 

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5 hours ago, fil-m said:

Same wobble on my Nov22 unit, but honestly I did not recognise this as a problem until I have started hearing about this wobble on the net. I am not sure it is a problem.

Unsure if this is useful to anyone or whether it's been mentioned before but (only when manipulated up/down) my Reissue 'wobbles' the same amount as my two v2's.  And both the v2 and Reissue wobble in this way a little bit more than v1, which also exhibits some play (wobbles?) .

So it seems far more likely that this is normal and 'as designed' (as Leica have also stated), than it is that all 4 of my lenses are duds. 

Considering the play is observed only when forcibly manipulating the aperture ring in a way that is counter-intuitive to using the lens (i..e up/down) I'd never noticed this on any of these frequently-used lenses, before reading these threads and going looking for it.    

Hope that helps and apologies if I missed comments that describe other wobbles ! 

 

 

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Same here, wobble is a non-issue, that's the actual design of the aperture ring in the pre-asph and reissue and it's the same in all lenses. I also looked at the videos some people took and nothing seemed off. The hood thing is annoying indeed and happy to see Leica acknowledging it and providing a solution, but the wobble is a non-issue. 

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25 minutes ago, JimmyCheng said:

can you fit the new hood on to old summilux pre-a lenses?

I doubt it as the new lens has E46 size front.  The older v2 pre-asph are similar to the size of lenses that take 39mm filters.  (hoods and caps from E39 sumicrons fit the pre-asph v2) 

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I’m off to my AD in Paris (my APO 35 M has come in at last so I’m excited to be getting that). 

I’m taking with me my steel rim 35 reissue. I found the hard vignette with the screw in round hood unfixable in post, so I’d like to see if they can organise the replacement discussed in this thread. For the record I didn’t receive an email as some others have. But hopefully the AD can sort it out. 
 

My problem is actually with the supplied OLLUX style hood. It won’t attach securely. A gentle tap with one finger will see it detach. Anyone else have this problem? Am I missing something simple?

Will update. Hoping the latter issue is my own stupidity. 

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OK, some good news… confirmation of my stupidity will have to await some other occasion: my “OLLUX” is indeed defective. It will attach but as they demonstrated, it is supposed to make a definite click when it is in place. Mine does not do that. The little clamps don’t find the assigned grooves on the lens. So, that hood is now at the AD awaiting exchange. 

(My 35SX Steel was manufactured in July 2022 and I bought it about a day after it was announced last year. So, in case you have an early copy like mine - or not, this may not be relevant - do check that your OLLUX makes a definite click into place. It should feel secure.)

They have also requested the replacement round hood. 
 

Meantime I picked up my long awaited copy of the 35APO M, so I have enough distraction. 😄

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