69xchange Posted September 25, 2023 Share #1141 Posted September 25, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 4 hours ago, Esleepy said: Yup, the serial number is the same and the scratches are on the top plate. I would not be happy with that. That’s why I’m scared of sending my defective brand new camera for service when I can get an exchange instead. But not everyone cares about scratches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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logan2z Posted September 25, 2023 Share #1142 Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, 69xchange said: I would not be happy with that. That’s why I’m scared of sending my defective brand new camera for service when I can get an exchange instead. But not everyone cares about scratches. Take a lot of photographs of the camera from every angle before sending it in so that if it's returned with any damage you can prove it wasn't caused by you. I've had a local dealer send watches to the manufacturers for service and that's exactly what they did before packing the watches for shipment. Edited September 25, 2023 by logan2z 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69xchange Posted September 26, 2023 Share #1143 Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, logan2z said: Take a lot of photographs of the camera from every angle before sending it in so that if it's returned with any damage you can prove it wasn't caused by you. I've had a local dealer send watches to the manufacturers for service and that's exactly what they did before packing the watches for shipment. That is what I did w/ my M4-P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfairclough Posted September 26, 2023 Share #1144 Posted September 26, 2023 Had a Leica MP sent to Leica Australia in mid August due to a shutter curtain failure. They could not repair without ordering in 3 spare parts. I have just been informed by the spare parts department in Germany that there is an issue with supply of the blinds needed for my camera repair, and they don't expect them until JANUARY. So there will be a delay on the repair of my camera. That seems a little nuts, right? How does it take so long to receive a spare part or have it made? This is not including the service time which I imagine will be very quick in Australia once they have the part. Anyway really annoyed. They don't have any film cameras in their loan pool but Leica AU has looked after me great in the past and has offered to loan me an M11 for any time while my camera is away. End rant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esleepy Posted September 26, 2023 Share #1145 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, 69xchange said: I would not be happy with that. That’s why I’m scared of sending my defective brand new camera for service when I can get an exchange instead. But not everyone cares about scratches. The one under the label going horizontal is the newer scratch. I treated the camera like an egg and still got scratches on it as you can see, it’s going to happen eventually. I was upset for a day but I’ve moved on. They’re actually not that noticeable unless you’re really looking for it, which I was because I wanted to see every bit of my camera when I got it back. [img]https://i.ibb.co/rw6Q8zP/IMG-5623.jpg[/img][img]https://i.ibb.co/bXhyq8P/IMG-5625.jpg[/img] Edit: Sorry I don’t know how to post photos on here. Edited September 26, 2023 by Esleepy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 26, 2023 Share #1146 Posted September 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Esleepy said: Edit: Sorry I don’t know how to post photos on here. Just paste the URL. You don't need to add any BB or HTML code. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/355800-brand-new-mpm-am6-film-scratches-merged/?do=findComment&comment=4864870'>More sharing options...
jakontil Posted September 28, 2023 Share #1147 Posted September 28, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 9/26/2023 at 10:25 AM, Esleepy said: The one under the label going horizontal is the newer scratch. I treated the camera like an egg and still got scratches on it as you can see, it’s going to happen eventually. I was upset for a day but I’ve moved on. They’re actually not that noticeable unless you’re really looking for it, which I was because I wanted to see every bit of my camera when I got it back. [img]https://i.ibb.co/rw6Q8zP/IMG-5623.jpg[/img][img]https://i.ibb.co/bXhyq8P/IMG-5625.jpg[/img] Edit: Sorry I don’t know how to post photos on here. oh well, the blackpaint is prone to scratches anyhow, as long as ur negs are oke now i suppose? yeah the only way to get away from being upset is move on.. hope you will enjoy for decades to come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted October 16, 2023 Share #1148 Posted October 16, 2023 Hello, I got my MP back after 7 weeks ( including shipping days ), so far no scratches. I shot one roll so far, I will shoot more this week for sure. Cheers. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borna Posted December 11, 2023 Share #1149 Posted December 11, 2023 Hi, do we know what the status is here? I am in the market of a new MP soon, no fun to buy one and same moment send it away for a fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 11, 2023 Share #1150 Posted December 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Borna said: Hi, do we know what the status is here? I am in the market of a new MP soon, no fun to buy one and same moment send it away for a fix. Fair question. While the issue has been identified and a solution found, I doubt (on past experience) Leica has recalled all affected cameras; even ones sitting on the shelves in dealers’ shops. They will know the serial numbers of affected cameras, and will be able to trace them … I’m not entirely sure what I would do. Perhaps ask the shop to find out from Leica (and get confirmation) that the camera does not have the defective pressure plate? Alternatively, tell the shop you will only buy if they run a film through the camera for you to inspect. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted December 12, 2023 Share #1151 Posted December 12, 2023 21 hours ago, Borna said: Hi, do we know what the status is here? I am in the market of a new MP soon, no fun to buy one and same moment send it away for a fix. Can't you just buy a new MP and return it for a refund if found to have a "scratching" pressure plate? In being fully refunded, you will be no worse off than you were prior to buying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borna Posted December 12, 2023 Share #1152 Posted December 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, wattsy said: Can't you just buy a new MP and return it for a refund if found to have a "scratching" pressure plate? In being fully refunded, you will be no worse off than you were prior to buying it. Funny thing is that I asked this question to my local dealer. They said "We are not aware of any scratching issue" and "It is not possible since it is already opened, you have to send any issues to Wetzlar.". Quite annoying. However, I might wait one year as the BP and Silver MP they have in stock is made 2023/02 and 2023/04 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted January 13, 2024 Share #1153 Posted January 13, 2024 Hi all! Recently purchased a new Leica MP dated 29/06/2023. At the time of purchase, I was aware that Leica had experienced some issues with the pressure plate in M6, MP, and M-A models. I have been using my new MP for three months now, shooting 30 rolls of film. I also conducted a test by running a film halfway through to check for scratches. When scanning my film, I didn't observe any scratches or signs of them, so I felt reassured about the previously mentioned issue concerning MP bodies. However, yesterday I used FOMAPAN 400 film for the first time. While inspecting the drying film, I noticed very thin lines running across it. These lines are quite delicate and challenging to see even with the flashlight on my phone. I went back and inspected some rolls I shot before and noticed similar thin lines in some places. Am I becoming overly concerned about the scratch issue? Could my camera be a scratcher? Here's a video showing the thin lines: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted January 13, 2024 Share #1154 Posted January 13, 2024 @cesc: If there is no impact on the image, I wouldn't worry about it. Looks like, you have some drying marks though. You might want to correct this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted January 13, 2024 Share #1155 Posted January 13, 2024 Just now, Aryel said: @cesc: If there is no impact on the image, I wouldn't worry about it. Looks like, you have some drying marks though. You might want to correct this. They literally don't appear in the scanning process; I suppose they are extremely thin, so they don't touch the emulsion. Additionally, this is the roll that is significantly more visible compared to other brands. I have shot HP5, TRIX, BERGGER, ROLLEI, and this FOMAPAN 400 has shown all those lines. I did not use Photo Flo on this one; I was just running a test on how far I could push Fomapan 400. However, I typically prepare all my chemicals with distilled water. The water in my hometown is highly calcareous. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted January 13, 2024 Share #1156 Posted January 13, 2024 4 minutes ago, cesc said: They literally don't appear in the scanning process; I suppose they are extremely thin, so they don't touch the emulsion. Additionally, this is the roll that is significantly more visible compared to other brands. I have shot HP5, TRIX, BERGGER, ROLLEI, and this FOMAPAN 400 has shown all those lines. I did not use Photo Flo on this one; I was just running a test on how far I could push Fomapan 400. However, I typically prepare all my chemicals with distilled water. The water in my hometown is highly calcareous. I would not worry about it if I was you (especially if their position seem random without pattern), but that's just me of course. The thin lines may come from the development or some particles on the opening of the film roll too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted January 13, 2024 Share #1157 Posted January 13, 2024 Actually you are right, I've checked old negatives and they all have those small tiny lines at some moment, all the old negatives I've checked were from different cameras so that makes sense about, development , film canisters, etc. Thanks for your help 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta100 Posted February 9, 2024 Share #1158 Posted February 9, 2024 Wanting to purchase in 2024 a new MP film camera in London, have Leica now fixed the problem of scratching pressure plates? I want the MP not an M6 or MA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted February 9, 2024 Share #1159 Posted February 9, 2024 I bought my MP in the UK last January. It never scratched film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgillberg Posted February 9, 2024 Share #1160 Posted February 9, 2024 Bought two M6 last januari also. Both fine. Let's hope it was in the past for a short number of cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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