Help please with Bridge 2023

[ho_co]

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Somehow, Filmstrip view no longer shows filenames and ratings. (I pressed some key and this info disappeared.)

Still have one row of images, but with neither filenames nor ratings.

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

 

OK, forget it. Info back as I like it. Still don't know what I did to mess it up or to fix it.  Could this  topic be deleted by Admins?

Edited December 2, 2022 by ho_co
Corrected problem by accident.

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[zeitz]

The controls you are looking for are on the bottom right of the Bridge / Filmstrip screen.

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[ho_co]

Thanks, zeitz!

I had missed several versions of the Adobe suite when I replaced the old computer with this one, so I've got a lot of changes to cope with!

[zeitz]

1 hour ago, ho_co said:

missed several versions of the Adobe suite

Along with new processing functionality, the interface with its tools has changed too.   You may also find ACR looks very different, depending on what version you had before upgrading.

[ho_co]

You're right. It's almost like starting over again!!

Looks to me as if Photoshop is fighting back against the encroachment of Lightroom on its turf.

Thanks again for the pointers!

[zeitz]

1 hour ago, ho_co said:

Looks to me as if Photoshop is fighting back against the encroachment of Lightroom on its turf.

Remember Lightroom Develop and ACR are the same software.  So it makes sense for Adobe to work toward a single interface standard.  Bridge and Lightroom Library with a few other Lightroom functions are getting closer; I am surprised they are not even more closely matched.  Bridge/Photoshop now has import/export jargon; I am still an open/save guy. 

[ho_co]

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1 hour ago, zeitz said:

 Bridge/Photoshop now has import/export jargon; I am still an open/save guy. 

Alas, that's my style as well, zeitz. And (for shame 😉 ) I prefer to save to and open from a disk rather than the all-encroaching Cloud!

[marchyman]

3 hours ago, zeitz said:

Remember Lightroom Develop and ACR are the same software.

Almost.  Or the same software with a different UI.  With the current releases you can use curves within a mask in ACR.  Can not do that (yet?) in LrC.

[zeitz]

5 minutes ago, marchyman said:

Or the same software with a different UI.

That is my belief.  The UI is still somewhat different for some unknown reason.  I think it goes back to the roots of Photoshop, which had a terrible UI.  Adobe has to be careful changing Photoshop's UI today because so many people are lifelong users of Photoshop and still want to use the old methods.

[250swb]

16 hours ago, zeitz said:

 Bridge/Photoshop now has import/export jargon; I am still an open/save guy. 

So am I, but the 'new' Bridge works for me exactly like the old one, so perhaps I'm using it in an even simpler way?

I've been using Bridge since it was introduced in CS2 in 2005 and updates have generally been non-revolutionary and slow to appear, I think only once have I thought 'where has everything gone?' and it was only a minute or two before I found out how to bring the old look back. But recently each update does seem to have a couple of bugs in it on release and these can lead you around in circles. One thing that can throw you is if updates are added in the background and you aren't expecting it, in the old days you'd download the latest Photoshop/Bridge and expect to spend an hour exploring the new features. But it's a great piece of software overall.

Edited December 3, 2022 by 250swb

[LocalHero1953]

As someone who rarely uses Bridge, and uses LR almost all the time, with occasional excursions into PS for more complex masking etc......

What is a good workflow for using Bridge and ACR? Do you use them like LR Library and Develop? What are the benefits of Bridge/ACR vs LR? (or vice versa). For those who have used both approaches, is one faster than the other?

From a practical point of view I find it convenient having just the one application open, switching seamlessly between the two modules, but I'm interested why some people obviously find Bridge/ACR preferable.

[zeitz]

3 hours ago, 250swb said:

the 'new' Bridge works for me exactly like the old one

 

3 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

What is a good workflow for using Bridge and ACR? Do you use them like LR Library and Develop?

The simple answer on use of Bridge/ACR and Library/Develop is Yes.  The workflow looks the same to me.

And the attraction is exactly because you can work it simply as 250SWB points out, without Libraries, Catalogs, Albums, Library Backups, whatevers.  The genius of Bridge is that it has been left simple for traditional users while adding Library-like features for folks coming from Lightroom.  Bridge/ACR/Photoshop work as one piece of software.  True - two .app's are open, but such actions as shift + control + W closes one file and goes back to Bridge with the user not even thinking he is changing apps.  I don't think of a seam.

I don't think one approach is any faster than the other, unless one uses features of Photoshop that require jumping from Lightroom to Photoshop and back.

[fotografr]

I've been using Bridge/ACR/Photoshop for about 20 years and have never felt the need to move to Lightroom for the reasons listed by zeitz. Just recently, however, Adobe did an update to Photoshop that had serious bugs and has completely screwed up my workflow. I've spent three hours with three different tech support people and each time they solved one problem and left me with another. I'm close to dumping Adobe and moving to something like Affinity 2.

[ho_co]

18 minutes ago, fotografr said:

... Just recently, however, Adobe did an update to Photoshop that had serious bugs and has completely screwed up my workflow....

Agreed, Brent. One of these updates has completely messed up my workflow in Photoshop. And at least in my case, the "new and improved" versions that are supposed to fix bugs haven't touched the problems I've got. Problem is, you and I have so much time invested in Photoshop, is it worth it to switch to a new program? 😞

 

[fotografr]

1 hour ago, ho_co said:

Agreed, Brent. One of these updates has completely messed up my workflow in Photoshop. And at least in my case, the "new and improved" versions that are supposed to fix bugs haven't touched the problems I've got. Problem is, you and I have so much time invested in Photoshop, is it worth it to switch to a new program? 😞

 

I'm planning to do a trial of Affinity Photo 2. The main concern I have now is whether Affinity 2 will open DNG files from the Q2M and M Monochrom. I'll probably do a trial version. 

[sc_john]

On 12/19/2022 at 7:49 PM, fotografr said:

I'm planning to do a trial of Affinity Photo 2. The main concern I have now is whether Affinity 2 will open DNG files from the Q2M and M Monochrom. I'll probably do a trial version. 

The Q2M and M Monochrom are supported, according to Affinity… https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/167741-list-of-supported-raw-formats-cameras-for-lens-correction-list-in-affinity-20x/

John

[Ouroboros]

I’m another ‘traditional’ user of Bridge, ACR and Photoshop working from external drives where my files are backed up simultaneously.

I like to know where my files are archived and in what form.  When it comes to batch editing a lot of images from an event or a wedding, all I need at the end of the selection and editing process are the backed-up edited RAW files and finished jpegs for archive, print and client download. 

I’ve tried Lr and I dislike it for the same reasons that others have stated here, mainly a system of cataloguing that I don’t need or want.
I’ve no reason to change the way I’ve been doing things for a long time.

 

 

 

 

[Alberti]

On 12/21/2022 at 5:32 PM, sc_john said:

The Q2M and M Monochrom are supported, according to Affinity… https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/167741-list-of-supported-raw-formats-cameras-for-lens-correction-list-in-affinity-20x/

John

But as for the M-line, it is a no go: just

Leica M (Typ 240)

I went to LRc because it had better support that the stand-alone LR 6-14 of the M240. Then the results improved so much that I decided to jump to the M10-R . . .  And for the rest for now it is history .

But coming from C1 then LR6.14, and liking my storage in venues/cities/years - thus a catalogue is imminent of use - I have never stepped into PS nor Bridge. It all seems complicated. Even when LRc is far from perfect in handling, I just dont want to spend the time on the Bridge. 

Edited December 29, 2022 by Alberti

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[jaapv]

PS is indeed complicated. Bridge is simplicity itself.