M11 User Profiles

[Ton Ton]

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I have set up some profiles around various DNG resolutions with other the menu options. I have thought about redoing  Profiles the new  dominant being lens designation as now and then forget first few frames  before changing.....DSLR  hang over no doubt. Have 12mm 21,  28,  35 and 90...all Voigtlander M except f2 35 which is Leica M Canada but uncoded. So at least as aide memoir lens Profiles make sense or some of them.  I have some LTM as well but of course also uncoded. M adapters Leica and Voigtlander. One old Hektor 7.3 cm f 1.9 a sought after collector item too.

 

[schimmey]

Good afternoon all,

I was going to post a new thread but found this one so thought I would first comment here. 
 

At the moment I have only 2 user defined profiles. Mainly I use the 1st. I have noticed that, without changing any settings, if the camera goes into standby mode it forgets which profile was selected and returns to the default.

Is this supposed to happen? When out and about shooting I want to expect the profile I selected at the start remains that same profile until I change it. Or is that too much to ask?

Cheers. 
 

Paul

 

[M11 for me]

That would not be the correct function. But a question to you: Are you sure that the camera automatically goes back to default profile? Is it not rather the case that in the overview menu it simply does not show the profile number but its still the same prifile active.

[elmars]

M11 for me is right. When you select a profile, the profile number first appears in the status menu. But if you then change only one small thing in the settings (e.g. an exposure compensation), then the number of the profile disappears. This is also consistent, since the settings of the camera no longer fully correspond to those of the profile. However, this does not mean that the default settings are active. Rather, the settings of the selected profile plus the changes made afterwards are active.

[schimmey]

Thanks M11 and elmars,

The issue here is that the menu screen does not continue to display the selected profile - even though in the background it is operating according to that profile. It seems odd to me that the profile icon does not retain the selected profile until either the profile is changed or, as pointed out, I make an adjustment. It would be reassuring if it stayed showing the active profile - rather than having to fiddle about. 
Oh well… perhaps for another firmware update. 
Cheers. 
Paul

[lct]

3 hours ago, schimmey said:

Thanks M11 and elmars,

The issue here is that the menu screen does not continue to display the selected profile - even though in the background it is operating according to that profile. It seems odd to me that the profile icon does not retain the selected profile until either the profile is changed or, as pointed out, I make an adjustment. It would be reassuring if it stayed showing the active profile - rather than having to fiddle about. [...]

Are you using a coded lens? If not, as i suspect it, you may wish to set up a user profile for uncoded lenses. I may well switch camera off-on and/or change an uncoded lens for another uncoded lens, the profile for uncoded lenses is still displayed. 

[Photoworks]

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4 hours ago, schimmey said:

Thanks M11 and elmars,

The issue here is that the menu screen does not continue to display the selected profile - even though in the background it is operating according to that profile. It seems odd to me that the profile icon does not retain the selected profile until either the profile is changed or, as pointed out, I make an adjustment. It would be reassuring if it stayed showing the active profile - rather than having to fiddle about. 
Oh well… perhaps for another firmware update. 
Cheers. 
Paul

It seams all by design

perhaps you have set something in the profile that you should have not, something you change often.

try loading Leila’s profile and creating a new one, not setting exposures.

in any case in drought when you go look if the number is still there, the profile can be re-elected with easy click

 

[M11 for me]

vor 45 Minuten schrieb Photoworks:

It seams all by design

perhaps you have set something in the profile that you should have not, something you change often.

try loading Leila’s profile and creating a new one, not setting exposures.

in any case in drought when you go look if the number is still there, the profile can be re-elected with easy click

 

Dear @Photoworks, that is wrong. I am sorry to tell you. The behaviour is rather unpredictable. For the user there is the good news after all: He/she should not bother about that too much. The active profile is still active. Just continue shooting your photographs. If you want to make sure that you have the right profile active, just re-activate it again. This might be the case after you had not used your camera for a few days and you are not sure what settings are now active. As these profile settings are part of the initial menu screen its very easy to set a specific profile when needed. My suggestion is: When you pick up your camera, then check your dials on top of the camera, set the aperture ring and choose your profile. Just do it.

 

[lct]

1 hour ago, M11 for me said:

[...] The behaviour is rather unpredictable [...]

Rather is the right word. My 2 most used profiles work as intented while the 4 others don't, i have no idea why. 

[M11 for me]

Indeed, its never clear to me either.

But as I wrote it above: Before going out with the M11 I got used to check all dials the aperture ring and the profile. That is a five seconds job. 

[lct]

5 minutes ago, M11 for me said:

Indeed, its never clear to me either.

But as I wrote it above: Before going out with the M11 I got used to check all dials the aperture ring and the profile. That is a five seconds job. 

You can do it because you don't have auto iso in your profiles i guess. I am mostly in auto iso M mode myself but my 2 main profiles work fine fortunately so i tend to use them almost exclusively. Not a big deal but i often feel like I'm tinkering with Leica...

[lct]

1 hour ago, lct said:

My 2 most used profiles work as intended while the 4 others don't, i have no idea why. 

Now what is the common point between my 2 successful profiles? Both have been modified after the firmware update. Then why not doing the same with the other profiles? Just modified a 3rd profile and... it works now! I feel i'm on something with this...

[Photoworks]

5 hours ago, M11 for me said:

Dear @Photoworks, that is wrong. I am sorry to tell you. The behaviour is rather unpredictable. For the user there is the good news after all: He/she should not bother about that too much. The active profile is still active. Just continue shooting your photographs. If you want to make sure that you have the right profile active, just re-activate it again. This might be the case after you had not used your camera for a few days and you are not sure what settings are now active. As these profile settings are part of the initial menu screen its very easy to set a specific profile when needed. My suggestion is: When you pick up your camera, then check your dials on top of the camera, set the aperture ring and choose your profile. Just do it.

 

i don’t get what is wrong for you

[Antonio Russell]

I find it counterintuitive also that the selected profile number is not displayed on the back screen following initial profile selection. Especially with multiple profiles there is no fast way of checking which prfofile is currently active.

[M11 for me]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb Photoworks:

i don’t get what is wrong for you

Sorry, I might have misunderstood your points. 

However I tried to follow the advice above and I deleted profiles and loaded them again. I will observe now but it seems to work. It could well be that there was a corrupted peace of firmware code that is overwritten by redoing the profiles.

[schimmey]

25 minutes ago, Antonio Russell said:

I find it counterintuitive also that the selected profile number is not displayed on the back screen following initial profile selection. Especially with multiple profiles there is no fast way of checking which prfofile is currently active.

Exactly my point too 🙂

[lct]

12 hours ago, Antonio Russell said:

I find it counterintuitive also that the selected profile number is not displayed on the back screen following initial profile selection.

When you select a profile, its name is displayed page 4 of the main menu (User Profile) and its number is displayed on the status screen. So would you like its number to appear page 4 of the main menu together with its name or am i missing something? Just curious.

[Antonio Russell]

11 hours ago, lct said:

When you select a profile, its name is displayed page 4 of the main menu (User Profile) and its number is displayed on the status screen. So would you like its number to appear page 4 of the main menu together with its name or am i missing something? Just curious.

I find it counterintuitive also that the selected profile number is not displayed on the back screen following initial profile selection.

[lct]

3 hours ago, Antonio Russell said:

I find it counterintuitive also that the selected profile number is not displayed on the back screen following initial profile selection.

I don't understand what you mean by "back screen following initial profile selection", would you mind to elaborate?

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[ianforber]

3 hours ago, Antonio Russell said:

I find it counterintuitive also that the selected profile number is not displayed on the back screen following initial profile selection.

 

4 minutes ago, lct said:

I don't understand what you mean by "back screen following initial profile selection", would you mind to elaborate?

 My experience is that when I choose a profile the correct icon shows on the rear screen. When I next check the screen (not immediately after I’ve set the profile but probably not involving any change to the camera settings) the icon is the generic standard profile even though the camera is using all the settings of the chosen profile. I therefore learned to ignore this bug and just carry on shooting. I understand that the new firmware updates this so that the icon for the chosen profile is always displayed on the rear screen. I haven’t yet re-saved my profiles and gone out much with the camera so can’t confirm whether it has worked for my particular profile settings.