BenMathes Posted October 14, 2022 Share #1 Posted October 14, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) My M10R has 6 months left on the warranty. 85% of the time, when I push the shutter button, it fires. 15% of the time, it does not. I have to retry sometimes several times, and finally it shoots. Background is Leica R4-R6, M6’s, M9’s with dirty sensors, and now this- I’m not new to Leica. I’ve sent it back twice for repairs and it hasn’t been fixed. I need your advice. It costs a lot to ship it each time because of insurance. Should I just accept a camera that works 85% of the time? How do I get to Leica Germany? When it does shoot, it’s wonderful! I’d just love to have 100% confidence that I won’t miss my shot because the shutter fails. is that too much to expect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted October 14, 2022 Share #2 Posted October 14, 2022 No not too much to expect that an M has 100% confidence. Two suggestions : - if you have nearby Leica Shop or Store, or where you bought your M10-R, just go talk to the agency - sell this camera ( don't forget to mention the problem ), buy another one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2022 Share #3 Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Best suggestion take it to a Leica dealer, or specialist. They should be able to recommend a solution, probably a return to Wetzlar, or local repair specialist. Do you have a shutter release cable? Does it work 100% with that. If not you’ve probably got a faulty shutter release mechanism. EDIT: Forgot to say, if it’s still under warranty send it back to Leica and get a warranty repair/fix. Leica should cover shipping and repair. Edited October 14, 2022 by OThomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted October 14, 2022 Share #4 Posted October 14, 2022 This is not acceptable, I noticed this on my M10-R also. The shutter button feels mushy, not the usual firm mechanical feel. I have had good results when I contact Leica Germany directly via email and inquire. Request a shipping label from Leica, they will provide it. If you use a shutter button, remove it to see if it’s part of the issue. You shouldn’t have to sell your camera for this simple matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMathes Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share #5 Posted October 14, 2022 Thank you all for responding- took the shutter button off- that may be the issue ive used buttons on my M6’s and Fuji’s, but if the M10R is just Leica quirky i can live with that! Gonna head out and shoot- I’ll let you know! again, thanks for insights/responding! Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2022 Share #6 Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) I’ve had one of these on since I bought my M10-R no problems at all. They’re a standard fitment, with a little rubber grommet that doesn’t allow it to go down too far, yet keeps it tight Edited October 14, 2022 by OThomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMathes Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted October 14, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Update! First of all thank you all for insights and help! temived the shutter button and it works fine! Soft shutter release button was from my FUJI camera! yup! Shoot away!! I deserve it! figured a shutter button was a shutter button! guess not! thanks y’all! Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 14, 2022 Share #8 Posted October 14, 2022 Beware of weather sealing and warranty, should you experience a related problem or need to send in for any service. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMathes Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share #9 Posted October 14, 2022 Thanks Jeff! in bad weather I use my Q2 and love it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted October 14, 2022 Share #10 Posted October 14, 2022 It was the so called Soft Release fault, then ? Not the M10-R 👍. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2022 Share #11 Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, BenMathes said: figured a shutter button was a shutter button! It should be. Maybe the Fuji has a longer thread on the shutter, than the Leica. My soft releases are the same for my Fujis and Leicas, and have given zero issues. Happy you’ve solved your issue though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted October 15, 2022 Share #12 Posted October 15, 2022 It’s odd how a simple device can cause this. The camera might be picky about cable releases also. Glad you have this solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMathes Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share #13 Posted October 20, 2022 UPDATE! Took of the shutter release button and thought all was well. Did a shoot with a model and had one stutter- it failed to fire, lost a moment David Hild and Kathy Carbone suggested I send it in and sent prepaid UPS label! Bless them This is third try- hope it gets fixed- but again, thank you all for the input- The pics are amazing- I'll post some on the proper site if I am able! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted October 21, 2022 Share #14 Posted October 21, 2022 5 hours ago, BenMathes said: UPDATE! Took of the shutter release button and thought all was well. Did a shoot with a model and had one stutter- it failed to fire, lost a moment David Hild and Kathy Carbone suggested I send it in and sent prepaid UPS label! Bless them This is third try- hope it gets fixed- but again, thank you all for the input- The pics are amazing- I'll post some on the proper site if I am able! Hope it gets fixed for good, sorry for being ignorant, is your m10r a black paint or regular? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMathes Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share #15 Posted October 21, 2022 My M10R is regular black as ever- I love the camera, and hope it will function with a shutter button 100% of the time!! I’ll keep you posted! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted October 22, 2022 Share #16 Posted October 22, 2022 Patience is a necessary part of owning Leica, but well worth it. I’ve had third time repairs in the past, request it be sent to Germany if it recurs. Leica New Jersey is very accommodating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimichurri Posted October 22, 2022 Share #17 Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 7:33 PM, BenMathes said: ive used buttons on my M6’s and Fuji’s, but if the M10R is just Leica quirky I made the mistake of putting a soft shutter release on my M10R that was supposed to work for Leica and it missed firing all the time. I noticed it immediately. I took it off. I had 2 and threw them in the trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanetomlane Posted October 23, 2022 Share #18 Posted October 23, 2022 You're not by any chance using a 'softy', or whatever they're called which screw into the shutter release to give you a smoother action? If so, try it without. I had the same problem some years ago with an M246 and suffered with it for over a year. Someone at a Leica meeting in Bristol advised me to try it without and I never had a problem after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 23, 2022 Share #19 Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 1:39 PM, BenMathes said: My M10R is regular black as ever- I love the camera, and hope it will function with a shutter button 100% of the time!! I’ll keep you posted! It won't. Leica has a different internal thread so it will only work with a correct softie,not with a generic one. But why should you want to use a softie - it induces camera shake. Leica M cameras have a collar around the shutter button which is designed for shakefree shutter release, when using the proper technique. Rest your relaxed index finger on the collar and you'll find that the slightest twitch will release the shutter. With a bit of practice it will be that you think: "now" and the image gets taken in a reflex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share #20 Posted October 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, lanetomlane said: You're not by any chance using a 'softy', or whatever they're called which screw into the shutter release to give you a smoother action? If so, try it without. I had the same problem some years ago with an M246 and suffered with it for over a year. Someone at a Leica meeting in Bristol advised me to try it without and I never had a problem after. @lanetomlane it’s already been removed, stated in a previous post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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