Reissue 35mm Summilux Pre-Asph V1 Steel Rim

[shirubadanieru]

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2 hours ago, JimmyCheng said:

hey guys, I just got this lens a few days ago, haven't got the time to play around with it much but I notitced that the focus ring on my copy wobbles and overall felt quite plasticky for some reason (I know it's metal). It definitely doesn't feel as solid as my other leica lenses. I wonder if any of you guys have experienced that? 

Nop, not at all, my copy (despite having dust in elements that Leica will have to clean up for me) feels extremely solid, and as I mentioned in my first thoughts, even better built than the original (although it’s splitting hairs since the original was one of the most solid Leica lenses already). 

You might wanna check with Leica. FYI, I don’t know which serials correspond to which batch, but my serial starts with 4837xxx in case it helps.

Edited December 29, 2022 by shirubadanieru

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7 hours ago, JimmyCheng said:

嘿伙计们，我几天前刚拿到这个镜头，没有时间玩它太多但我注意到我的副本上的对焦环摇晃并且由于某种原因整体感觉很塑料（我知道它是金属的） . 它绝对不像我的其他徕卡镜头那样坚固。我想知道你们中有没有人有过这样的经历？ 

That's right。 All parts are so loose to be a new released len。

没错 质量很差 光圈环松垮 对焦手感非常拉胯

[JimmyCheng]

12 hours ago, shirubadanieru said:

Nop, not at all, my copy (despite having dust in elements that Leica will have to clean up for me) feels extremely solid, and as I mentioned in my first thoughts, even better built than the original (although it’s splitting hairs since the original was one of the most solid Leica lenses already). 

You might wanna check with Leica. FYI, I don’t know which serials correspond to which batch, but my serial starts with 4837xxx in case it helps.

Damn the Leica QC plague hits hard I guess. My copy feels crappy and loose especially the aperture ring （focus ring not as smooth either). I’ve never seen a new lens wobbles like this one. Oh well, I’ll have to write to Leica after all. 

Edited December 29, 2022 by JimmyCheng

[MarkP]

So a month or so ago I’d mentioned to the Leica Store in Sydney that I’d be interested in this lens.  I went on the waiting list thinking I’d have for ever  to make a final decision as I already  have more than too many Leica lenses.  
I was very

surprised to get a call two weeks ago that they had one available. I made an immediate impulse purchase 🙄 with my wife’s approval - I love my wife ❤️.

Very happy with the decision.  I like how it images (it is indeed a two-in-one package), how compact it is for a Summilux, and it’s handling overall.

 

There are two things that annoy me:

Although I have some other older focus lock lenses (5cm Summaron & Elmars) I’d prefer not to have the focus lock on this lens - but it is what it is and it’s probably just me needing to get used to this type of lock.

As discussed before, it is very annoying I can’t get a filter under the hood. Surely a minuscule change in the hood design world have overcome this.

 

Finally, I want to pair it with a 90 that images  sympathetically with this lens for a two lens kit.  About to test it with my 1962 2.8/90 Tele-Elmarit, 4.0/90 Macro-Elmar, and 4.0/90 Elmar-C.

 

Edited December 29, 2022 by MarkP

[Fred Miranda]

2 hours ago, JimmyCheng said:

Damn the Leica QC plague hits hard I guess. My copy feels crappy and loose especially the aperture ring （focus ring not as smooth either). I’ve never seen a new lens wobbles like this one. Oh well, I’ll have to write to Leica after all. 

I have tried two copies so far and the aperture ring on both copies were not very tight. The focusing action is not smooth throughout the distance range and gets a bit sticky towards the infinity mark. I think it's because of how Leica designed the infinity lock but I'm not sure at this point. I have spoken with Leica and my lens is at New Jersey right now. Let's see if they can tight things up and make that focus action smoother. It was slightly back-focusing as well.

[Wonzo]

vor 52 Minuten schrieb MarkP:

As discussed before, it is very annoying I can’t get a filter under the hood. Surely a minuscule change in the hood design world have overcome this.

 

I don`t understand why this is mentioned again and again. What do you think, why Leica has delivered a second, ventilated lens shade ? Screw a 46mm filter into the lens and then screw the ventilated lens shade into the filter. This of course does not work with the OLLUX.

[MarkP]

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44 minutes ago, Fred Miranda said:

I have tried two copies so far and the aperture ring on both copies were not very tight. The focusing action is not smooth throughout the distance range and gets a bit sticky towards the infinity mark. I think it's because of how Leica designed the infinity lock but I'm not sure at this point. I have spoken with Leica and my lens is at New Jersey right now. Let's see if they can tight things up and make that focus action smoother. It was slightly back-focusing as well.

Thanks for this. I had forgotten to mention this but I also noticed the focus action  noticeably harder approaching infinity. Will await your getting back to us before I pursue this further.

 

[MarkP]

34 minutes ago, Wonzo said:

 

Edited December 29, 2022 by MarkP

[MarkP]

No!

It is impossible to get the 12487 hood over a filter ( Leica or B+W) and to clip into place.

Any filter, even super slim, leads to hard vignetting in the corners with the 12486 hood.

My initial comment stands.

Edited December 29, 2022 by MarkP

[Wonzo]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb MarkP:

No!

It is impossible to get the 12487 hood over a filter ( Leica or B+W) and to clip into place.

Any filter, even super slim, leads to hard vignetting in the corners with the 12485 hood.

My initial comment stands.

I was talking about the ventilated hood, not of the remake (OLLUX). Don`t try to get the hood over the filter, screw the hood into the filter.

[MarkP]

I’m talking about the round ventilated hood 12486 that comes with the new lens. Unfortunately, even with the thinnest filter it leads to hard vignetting that cannot be removed in post. This has been demonstrates elsewhere in the Forum.

[Fred Miranda]

16 minutes ago, Wonzo said:

I was talking about the ventilated hood, not of the remake (OLLUX). Don`t try to get the hood over the filter, screw the hood into the filter.

I wish more reviewers would mention this but if one attaches the ventilated threaded hood (12486) to a filter (even a very thin one like the B+W), it causes hard vignetting which can't be recovered in post. (pure black). Leica designed both hoods without carefully considering the use of filters which is upsetting for many shooters. The alternative is to use a third party threaded hood that does not cause vignetting.

 

Edited December 29, 2022 by Fred Miranda

[MarkP]

7 minutes ago, Fred Miranda said:

I wish more reviewers would mention this but if one attaches the ventilated threaded hood (12486) to a filter (even a very thin one like the B+W), it causes hard vignetting which can't be recovered in post. (pure black). Leica designed both hoods without carefully considering the use of filters which is upsetting for many shooters. The alternative is to use a third party threaded hood that does not cause vignetting.

 

Thank you.

I have yet to source a third-party hood.

Edited December 29, 2022 by MarkP

[MarkP]

10 minutes ago, Fred Miranda said:

Leica designed both hoods without carefully considering the use of filters which is upsetting for many shooters.

Upsetting?  

With my OCD I'm devastated 😫.

Edited December 29, 2022 by MarkP

[shirubadanieru]

1 hour ago, Wonzo said:

I don`t understand why this is mentioned again and again. What do you think, why Leica has delivered a second, ventilated lens shade ? Screw a 46mm filter into the lens and then screw the ventilated lens shade into the filter. This of course does not work with the OLLUX.

reason is the original OLLUX worked with a filter...& it's also leica's coolest hood, quite unfortunate we can't use it whereas we could in the original lens.

[MarkP]

Leica? Are you listening?

[junix]

On 12/27/2022 at 5:57 PM, shirubadanieru said:

All shot wide open and pushing for flare whenever possible! 

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Back to photos, where flaring is caring.. 😀

..just some snapshots of my kid while we’re on vacation.

[junix]

Wide open, you can make it flare very easily if conditions allows..

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ps: my copy also has a very wobbly aperture ring, I hope it can be easily tightened by Leica..

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5 hours ago, Fred Miranda said:

到目前为止，我已经试了两份，两份的光圈环都不是很紧。在整个距离范围内对焦动作并不流畅，并且在无限远标记处变得有点粘。我认为这是因为徕卡如何设计无限锁，但我现在不确定。我已经和徕卡谈过了，我的镜头现在在新泽西。让我们看看他们是否可以收紧东西并使焦点动作更顺畅。它也略微向后聚焦。

Exactly. The focusing feeling is the worst in the leica new era len catalog. I think this situation comes with non-metal internal focus thread and poor construction quality. 

[Fred Miranda]

4 hours ago, MarkP said:

Thank you.

I have yet to source a third-party hood.

I purchased this slim ventilated metal hood from Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/264632460681

The hood is slimmer than the included Leica's rounded hood and I can have a filter attached to the lens and the hood attached to the filter without causing any hard vignetting.