Reissue 35mm Summilux Pre-Asph V1 Steel Rim

[Keith (M)]

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3 hours ago, shirubadanieru said:

Mine finally arrived today, went to the shop to pick it up…as we opened to check everything was in order, there was a huge spec of dust inside the lens…will have to wait for a new lens, which who knows how long it will take..wonder if people are signing the quality check card without even looking at the lens? Quite unfortunate…oh well.

Well, that is disturbing to read and for you extremely disappointing.  I hope the replacement arrives asap. 

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[darylgo]

9 hours ago, shirubadanieru said:

Mine finally arrived today, went to the shop to pick it up…as we opened to check everything was in order, there was a huge spec of dust inside the lens…will have to wait for a new lens, which who knows how long it will take..wonder if people are signing the quality check card without even looking at the lens? Quite unfortunate…oh well.

Sorry to hear this, when I read descriptions of older lenses it mentions dust inside and the comment that follows "this will not effect picture quality."  I am not sure that is correct, and I am sure there are situations where it will.  Nonetheless, a new lens should not, and the thrill of looking through a new shiny lens is quite exciting.  I've had many issues with new lenses, including an aperture ring frozen in place, it makes me wonder if some of these issues occur in transit via rough handling after the inspection process and all cards are signed off.  

[shirubadanieru]

50 minutes ago, darylgo said:

Sorry to hear this, when I read descriptions of older lenses it mentions dust inside and the comment that follows "this will not effect picture quality."  I am not sure that is correct, and I am sure there are situations where it will.  Nonetheless, a new lens should not, and the thrill of looking through a new shiny lens is quite exciting.  I've had many issues with new lenses, including an aperture ring frozen in place, it makes me wonder if some of these issues occur in transit via rough handling after the inspection process and all cards are signed off.  

yeah it was like a white 'dust hair' for lack of better description, quite visible and large. If just a tiny spec Im ok with it but this is really poor quality control. Let's see when/if they'll send a new one to the store.

[junix]

10 hours ago, shirubadanieru said:

Mine finally arrived today, went to the shop to pick it up…as we opened to check everything was in order, there was a huge spec of dust inside the lens…will have to wait for a new lens, which who knows how long it will take..wonder if people are signing the quality check card without even looking at the lens? Quite unfortunate…oh well.

I’m sorry to hear this, was really looking forward to see your photos of Japan taken with this lens. I hope you’ll receive a new dust free copy soon enough.

Here’s a quick unedited snap from Singapore wide open, keeping it on the M10-R for now (although I think it is a mistake as I keep using my film camera much more..)

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On 12/24/2022 at 6:18 AM, shirubadanieru said:

Mine finally arrived today, went to the shop to pick it up…as we opened to check everything was in order, there was a huge spec of dust inside the lens…will have to wait for a new lens, which who knows how long it will take..wonder if people are signing the quality check card without even looking at the lens? Quite unfortunate…oh well.

Really sorry to hear this ‘again’ about continuing QC issues with new lenses; @shirubadanieruI hope Leica is able to get you a new replacement quickly and to also take a close look at their final QC check process. I’m just patiently waiting on the extended waitlist for a chance to buy one at my local Leica Boutique. 

[RexGig0]

I spent a number of hours, during the big freeze conditions of the past few days, on the internet, looking at images and information on original versions of the Summilux-M 35mm, as well as this re-issue Steel Rim. In the past, while wading through information on all of the various 35mm Summicrons, I had largely missed the details of the pre-ASPH Summilux 35mm lenses. I am glad to have had the opportunity to play catch-up. These lenses, vintage and re-issued, now have my attention. I am thankful to those who have posted images and comments.

When I see the asking prices for some of the better-preserved post-Steel-Rim, pre-ASPH Summilux-M lenses, and their correct hoods, the official Leica price for the re-issued Steel Rim Summilux, with its two included hoods, seems quite reasonable. Every Leica lens, that I have bought, thus far, has been pre-owned. Perhaps this re-issued Steel Rim could be the first Leica lens that I eventually buy new.

[darylgo]

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3 hours ago, RexGig0 said:

When I see the asking prices for some of the better-preserved post-Steel-Rim, pre-ASPH Summilux-M lenses, and their correct hoods, the official Leica price for the re-issued Steel Rim Summilux, with its two included hoods, seems quite reasonable. Every Leica lens, that I have bought, thus far, has been pre-owned. Perhaps this re-issued Steel Rim could be the first Leica lens that I eventually buy new.

Re: reasonable, please don't let Leica hear that, it will encourage them to aim higher :-), and I agree with you.  

I'm seeing 50 Noctilux reissues appearing used from a few online retailers, the 35 new lens wait time could be longer than used copies becoming available.  

Edited December 26, 2022 by darylgo

[shirubadanieru]

Ok Leica committed to cleaning it after the new year so went ahead & bought it! Here it is with the M10M!

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Edited December 27, 2022 by shirubadanieru

[grahamc]

41 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said:

Ok Leica committed to cleaning it after the new year so went ahead & bought it! Here it is with the M10M!

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Congrats mate ! Beauty 

[shirubadanieru]

55 minutes ago, grahamc said:

Congrats mate ! Beauty 

Thanks buddy will share pics soon!

[shirubadanieru]

Here’s a couple of shots on my first day with the lens. All taken with M10M and edited to taste (contrast / highlights / shadows / noise only) 

F1.4 VS f2.8 at MFD

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All shot wide open and pushing for flare whenever possible! 

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Random street shots at F11 with zone focusing

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& a few more wide open testing bokeh / flare. First thoughts are that I wouldn’t be able to tell it apart from the original Steel Rim despite maybe more contrast from f2.8 onwards? So that’s a pretty good result for me, especially given the original costs 3 or 4x more : ) Once my M3 is back next year I’ll be testing it on film as well.

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Edited December 27, 2022 by shirubadanieru

[Keith (M)]

4 hours ago, shirubadanieru said:

Ok Leica committed to cleaning it after the new year so went ahead & bought it! Here it is with the M10M!

 

 

 

Congratulations on your purchase and hopefully Leica will rectify the issue without delay.  Thanks for posting the range of M10M shots at differing apertures - are the results meeting your hopes and expectations?

[shirubadanieru]

1 hour ago, Keith (M) said:

Congratulations on your purchase and hopefully Leica will rectify the issue without delay.  Thanks for posting the range of M10M shots at differing apertures - are the results meeting your hopes and expectations?

Thank you! Just a few hours with it so hard to say, I also don’t have the original SR anymore with me, but from what I can remember I would have a tough time differentiating both wide open. Maybe some day one of us will be able to shoot them side by side and compare

From f2.8 it is tack sharp, but so is the original SR, so I also don’t see much difference here. Might have higher contrast due to modern coatings? 

Bokeh and flare look exactly the same to me as the original. I also feel it’s better built than the original, feeling more robust. I like the focus tab a lot, all built from one single piece of brass rather than being a separate part as the original one. The lens also goes past 1m at MFD, so I’m assuming it may be able to focus slightly below 1m? I have to confirm this though. 

My only disappointment with it is that I cannot use the original hood even with the B+W filter which is quite thin. 

[insideline]

9 hours ago, shirubadanieru said:

Thank you! Just a few hours with it so hard to say, I also don’t have the original SR anymore with me, but from what I can remember I would have a tough time differentiating both wide open. Maybe some day one of us will be able to shoot them side by side and compare

From f2.8 it is tack sharp, but so is the original SR, so I also don’t see much difference here. Might have higher contrast due to modern coatings? 

Bokeh and flare look exactly the same to me as the original. I also feel it’s better built than the original, feeling more robust. I like the focus tab a lot, all built from one single piece of brass rather than being a separate part as the original one. The lens also goes past 1m at MFD, so I’m assuming it may be able to focus slightly below 1m? I have to confirm this though. 

My only disappointment with it is that I cannot use the original hood even with the B+W filter which is quite thin. 

Interesting how we can have a different experience with products, but when I received one of the first remake SR copies I instantly felt it was not made to nearly the same robust standard as my original 1961 Steel Rim. The aperture tabs with the knurling are not nearly as stiff and robust as the original as you can actually feel them flex a bit, the metal body of the original feels more dense as if it has an element of nickel in the brass, and last the infinity lock on the original is both ergonomically nicer plus much smoother to operate and it engages very smoothly. A good friend who also owns an original 1961 Steel Rim shared the same feelings as I had when he received his remake. Also when shot side by side wide open the original early 1961 version appears to let more light in than the remake or any of the other pre-asph Summilux's when shot at 1.4, due to the unique glass I am guessing. The new lens however comes with a warranty, plus no worries of haze, scratches or the need of a CLA.

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27 minutes ago, insideline said:

Interesting how we can have a different experience with products, but when I received one of the first remake SR copies I instantly felt it was not made to nearly the same robust standard as my original 1961 Steel Rim. The aperture tabs with the knurling are not nearly as stiff and robust as the original as you can actually feel them flex a bit, the metal body of the original feels more dense as if it has an element of nickel in the brass, and last the infinity lock on the original is both ergonomically nicer plus much smoother to operate and it engages very smoothly. A good friend who also owns an original 1961 Steel Rim shared the same feelings as I had when he received his remake. Also when shot side by side wide open the original early 1961 version appears to let more light in than the remake or any of the other pre-asph Summilux's when shot at 1.4, due to the unique glass I am guessing. The new lens however comes with a warranty, plus no worries of haze, scratches or the need of a CLA.

Yeah I think the original focus tab looks nicer since it's smaller, but this one feels more robust to me. Reminds me of an apple laptop ahah 

Rendering wise I don't have an original anymore so hard to compare but I'm quite happy with the reissue rendering as it 'feels' the same to me. 

especially happy about not having to worry about haze etc & the insane price of the original 🤣

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Some more shots from day 2. Wide open and f2 on the last shot

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[JimmyCheng]

hey guys, I just got this lens a few days ago, haven't got the time to play around with it much but I notitced that the focus ring on my copy wobbles and overall felt quite plasticky for some reason (I know it's metal). It definitely doesn't feel as solid as my other leica lenses. I wonder if any of you guys have experienced that?