New Leica M6 Film Camera

[grahamc]

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9 hours ago, Huss said:

EU 4800 

See, I knew it would be cheaper !  Ye of little faith 😂

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[Huss]

2 hours ago, grahamc said:

See, I knew it would be cheaper !  Ye of little faith 😂

Right now I can buy a new MP for GBP 3700.

[Fotoklaus]

vor 9 Stunden schrieb LocalHero1953:

I now adhere to the theory (I don't know who put it forward) that this is just a replacement for the MP, allowing them to update components, materials, tooling and manufacturing processes, while also achieving lower costs. So nothing really new, but just updating the assembly line and extending the manufacturing lifespan.

I think this is just a usage of NOS- Parts from the M6 TTL. The M6 was a mass- procuced camera (for Leica conditions), The MP and its following siblings are produced in

relatively small numbers. So CNC- milling parts out of solid brass may be cheaper, than expensive tools for casting or forging.

 

[verwackelt]

Film isn't dead? With 4800€ they give him the coup de grace.
My bank account already dies…

[shirubadanieru]

12 hours ago, DerHeld said:

35 mm Summilux Steel Rim Remake. Standard in silver, black in expensive limited edition.  

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[grahamc]

Rinsing the “#filmisnotdead” message for almost a full month before dropping ‘just’ a limited release of just 500 doesn’t make much sense to me.   Especially at this price point and keeping in mind the very expensive Titan m-a dropped out of nowhere with 2 days notice and sold out instantly (as did many more MP special runs before it I assume) 

So a prolonged marketing campaign for a limited release M6 seems pointless, unless there is something else. maybe we can hope for either :

1. A new feature in this edition that then gets rolled out to other cameras beyond this reissue 

or

2. Two film cameras announced instead of just M6

#2 seems wishful thinking but the prolonged marketing campaign for an M6 at a ‘normal’ (versus MP) price does seem a bit odd  

 

 

[maxfairclough]

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6 minutes ago, grahamc said:

Rinsing the “#filmisnotdead” message for almost a full month before dropping ‘just’ a limited release of just 500 doesn’t make much sense to me.   Especially at this price point and keeping in mind the very expensive Titan m-a dropped out of nowhere with 2 days notice and sold out instantly (as did many more MP special runs before it I assume) 

So a prolonged marketing campaign for a limited release M6 seems pointless, unless there is something else. maybe we can hope for either :

1. A new feature in this edition that then gets rolled out to other cameras beyond this reissue 

or

2. Two film cameras announced instead of just M6

#2 seems wishful thinking but the prolonged marketing campaign for an M6 at a ‘normal’ (versus MP) price does seem a bit odd  

 

 

I agree, it would be strange to see them end it just there. I suspect that the 500 is just a trial run to see if there is any conviction in mass producing a less limited edition version etc. Wishful thinking of me maybe.

[ianman]

35 minutes ago, maxfairclough said:

Wishful thinking of me maybe.

What are you wishing for? It’s the same as an MP with a red dot less the TTL flash option.

[jakontil]

1 minute ago, ianman said:

What are you wishing for? It’s the same as an MP with a red dot less the TTL flash option.

Provided the red dot variant is made of brass, it aint ever be the same 

long live the brass ✊

[andrew01]

15 hours ago, Huss said:

https://leicarumors.com/2022/10/10/the-leica-m6-film-camera-reissue-will-be-announced-on-october-20-with-a-price-tag-of-around-e4800-filmisnotdead.aspx/
 

Oct 20, EU 4800, 500 pieces.

Supposedly.

No surprises at all.  Curious to see if it is a reissue of the M6 or the M6TTL.  

[andrew01]

11 hours ago, pippy said:

Perhaps I'm missing out on the point being made here(?) but there have been some very recent Leica M cameras made which feature the 'Leica' script and also the 'Leica Camera Wetzlar Germany' (although not the DPB GMBH bits) engraved on the top-plate;

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That’s a digital camera so it is cheating squared:)

[andrew01]

1 hour ago, grahamc said:

Rinsing the “#filmisnotdead” message for almost a full month before dropping ‘just’ a limited release of just 500 doesn’t make much sense to me.   Especially at this price point and keeping in mind the very expensive Titan m-a dropped out of nowhere with 2 days notice and sold out instantly (as did many more MP special runs before it I assume) 

So a prolonged marketing campaign for a limited release M6 seems pointless, unless there is something else. maybe we can hope for either :

1. A new feature in this edition that then gets rolled out to other cameras beyond this reissue 

or

2. Two film cameras announced instead of just M6

#2 seems wishful thinking but the prolonged marketing campaign for an M6 at a ‘normal’ (versus MP) price does seem a bit odd  

 

 

On the disappointment scale its up there with Nikon’s ‘its in my hands again’ campaign, which created excitement about a digital version of the FM.  They then released the hideously ugly and bloated Df.

[Jimmyp82]

I find the news quite unsurprising, not saying its the greatest move, however the chances of them releasing a truly updated film body with faster shutter speed etc always seemed pretty slim. 

[jakontil]

1 hour ago, andrew01 said:

On the disappointment scale its up there with Nikon’s ‘its in my hands again’ campaign, which created excitement about a digital version of the FM.  They then released the hideously ugly and bloated Df.

I remember this with its 50mm lens

lol thanks for bringing it up

[Herr Barnack]

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Leica M6 film camera to be limited to 500 units and will sell for 4,800 euros in Germany

https://www.macfilos.com/2022/10/11/leica-m6-film-camera-to-be-limited-to-500-units-and-will-sell-for-4800/

Let the jousting begin!

[ianman]

2 hours ago, andrew01 said:

No surprises at all.  Curious to see if it is a reissue of the M6 or the M6TTL.  

The rumours site confirms what we were told… it’s the classic.

[madNbad]

2 hours ago, andrew01 said:

On the disappointment scale its up there with Nikon’s ‘its in my hands again’ campaign, which created excitement about a digital version of the FM.  They then released the hideously ugly and bloated Df.

Nikon did learn from the Df hype, they now have the ZFc in the lineup. It really is about the size of the FM series. The best thing about the Df was the ability to use legacy lenses, including non-Ai. I had a Df with some Ai-S lenses that had been chipped. Nice camera, great images but it still felt like carrying a bowling ball.

[Sunyforreal]

Here’s what I’ve surmised from the info so far:

The price for a Leica M6 in 1986 was $1695. Adjusted for inflation (USD), that comes to about $4580, or nearly exactly the same price as this rereleased M6.

The price for a new MP is $5695. For a new M-A $5595. So this is in fact, a cheaper Leica like the rumors suggested.

Leica has released limited runs of what became regular products to test the market before. They did the same with the M-A and plenty of lenses in the past. Releasing 500 now may be Leica guaging the market before they decide to bring it into regular production.

Leica I think has released this for a fair price. Anyone who truly thought a new M6 was going to cost anything less than $4k we’re reaching. Of course it would have been nice, but it’s unrealistic. But as of right now we don’t know what direction Leica is really going to head yet with all this. I say we should be happy they released anything at all, especially people who already own M6’s, as it means your camera will be getting support  for repairs a lot longer than what anyone would have though previously.

 

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[Jimmyp82]

agree^^

also people should be happy that anyone anywhere releases a new film camera, need that to convince kodak to increase film production and bring down prices

[oldwino]

10 minutes ago, Jimmyp82 said:

agree^^

also people should be happy that anyone anywhere releases a new film camera, need that to convince kodak to increase film production and bring down prices

500 cameras will “increase film production and bring down prices”?