fotografr Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share #21 Posted September 4, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've been playing around with other images and definitely agree that the colorizing neural filter is far from perfect. There needs to be a way to make adjustments to separate parts of images rather than just letting the AI take full control. I believe the filter is still in beta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Likaleica Posted September 4, 2022 Share #22 Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, fotografr said: The b&w conversion looks like it had heavy toning. I wonder if that affected the colorizing? Could be, but it also assumed the sky had blue in it, and I think the grass is a weird color, but I'm color blind so what do I know! I also tried desaturating it about 20% and I liked that much better. I think this will be great for old family photos because somehow colorizing old photos makes them seem less abstract. Edited September 4, 2022 by Likaleica 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 4, 2022 Share #23 Posted September 4, 2022 4 hours ago, fotografr said: I've been playing around with other images and definitely agree that the colorizing neural filter is far from perfect. There needs to be a way to make adjustments to separate parts of images rather than just letting the AI take full control. I believe the filter is still in beta. There is a way to do that in LAB if you make a blending layer and split the sliders. I would have to look it up in the Cabyon Conundrum book by Dan Margulis though for the exact procedure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted September 4, 2022 5 hours ago, jaapv said: There is a way to do that in LAB if you make a blending layer and split the sliders. I would have to look it up in the Cabyon Conundrum book by Dan Margulis though for the exact procedure. My interest in this process is actually quite shallow. I love b&w imaging and am not motivated to convert them to colour. I blame a photo editor for ever getting me started with it. 🥴 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 4, 2022 Share #25 Posted September 4, 2022 I'm interested when I get a colour cast I cannot correct by standard methods. (On an image I REALLY want to save ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HpS Posted September 5, 2022 Share #26 Posted September 5, 2022 Colour photography is but part of the natural evolution of photography. Historically there was a time when portraiture photographers would hand tint in colour a BW print for clients. I remember having seen some such old prints. The results would be simply superb to less than satisfactory. Similarly, possibilities available with evolving photo technology will continue to have a need for someone and somethings, They won't work for all nor for all situations! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HpS Posted September 5, 2022 Share #27 Posted September 5, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 8/28/2022 at 5:48 AM, jaapv said: I tried it as well, but it does not work on all subjects: The army vehicles were green, the reds on the barrier are strangely coloured, etc. I think it is best for landscape and portraits. Could the Green filtering through under the tree canopy have something to do with the colours going off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 5, 2022 Share #28 Posted September 5, 2022 I don't think so; the barrier has odd colours as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted September 19, 2022 Share #29 Posted September 19, 2022 I have not found an easy way to recolorize wrong colorized parts. Kloning takes over the structure too. I still have to find out (steep learning curve ahead) how I paint with a transparent colour, I hear suggestions of magic wands (more intelligence. . .) but I'm just very simple-minded. It would be nice if the filter page had something simple to adjust, without having to go to sleect object, hue saturate etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 21, 2022 Share #30 Posted September 21, 2022 'Neural' filters are supposed to learn intuitively and thereby 'approach perfection' with each iteration but from the experience and discussion here there doesn't appear to be a means of feedback into the neural filter that would enable that. Perhaps the other thing to take into account is that I understand that neural filters learn from a vast pool of photos drawn from sources such as Instagram, Flickr, Smugmug, FB etc and from what I see the current trend is for photos to be over-contrasty and over-saturated (to my eye) so that they stand out against the multitude and grab the viewer's eye. Perhaps this trend is biasing what the neural filters are trying to do? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 21, 2022 Share #31 Posted September 21, 2022 The more elements you have in the photo the better, and having a person gives the filter more of what it needs to colorise 'accurately' (lol). I suppose this is why portrait groups work and landscape doesn't. Leica MP, Ilford D100 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/336033-photoshop-neural-filters/?do=findComment&comment=4513470'>More sharing options...
ejg1890 Posted September 23, 2022 Share #32 Posted September 23, 2022 Didn’t read all the posts but curious if B&W color filters (y/o/r/g/b) have an impact on color conversion? My initial thought would be yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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