Enrique Santa Posted May 5, 2022 Share #941 Posted May 5, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: So, what did you mean by that? I really have to explain to you???. The topic is apsc and this is what I'm refering. What is the point of talking about the Z9 Nikon in all of this??. Is FF, is top of game and obviously is not garbage..., but of course you know all this, so why did you ask me?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IkarusJohn Posted May 5, 2022 Share #942 Posted May 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, Enrique Santa said: I really have to explain to you???. The topic is apsc and this is what I'm refering. What is the point of talking about the Z9 Nikon in all of this??. Is FF, is top of game and obviously is not garbage..., but of course you know all this, so why did you ask me?. well, because you listed the cameras you thought were garbage, including Nikon … Duh, as my daughter would say. But then, this exchange is rather pointless, don’t you think? The subtext, in case you missed it, is just chill. It maybe the internet, but you don’t need to look for a fight everywhere. You were rude. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 5, 2022 Share #943 Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Enrique Santa said: I really have to explain to you???. The topic is apsc and this is what I'm refering. What is the point of talking about the Z9 Nikon in all of this??. Is FF, is top of game and obviously is not garbage..., but of course you know all this, so why did you ask me?. Maybe he asked because you posted that it was garbage? The topic is not APSC but possible alternatives to the CL regardless of sensor format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 5, 2022 Share #944 Posted May 5, 2022 Never had the feeling to use a "garbage" camera in 40+ years. Even my old Lubitel 2 did not deserve that. Problem of translation perhaps? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330064-leica-aps-c-no-more/?do=findComment&comment=4429533'>More sharing options...
Enrique Santa Posted May 5, 2022 Share #945 Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: The subtext, in case you missed it, is just chill. It maybe the internet, but you don’t need to look for a fight everywhere. You were rude. I were rude.....and you were not?. The subject of this thread is " Leica apsc-no more", so I were talking of apsc cams, where Sony, Canon and Nikon are developing youtubers cams, and that is for me at least in a photographic point of view garbage, in comparation with Leica Fuji and Ricoh. That is my opinion , but of course you may think what you want. Is a good think always not to take words out of context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Santa Posted May 5, 2022 Share #946 Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: well, because you listed the cameras you thought were garbage, including Nikon … Duh, as my daughter would say. But then, this exchange is rather pointless, don’t you think? The subtext, in case you missed it, is just chill. It maybe the internet, but you don’t need to look for a fight everywhere. You were rude. 30 minutes ago, lct said: Never had the feeling to use a "garbage" camera in 40+ years. Even my old Lubitel 2 did not deserve that. Problem of translation perhaps? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My friend you know exactly what I mean, so why this absurd discussion?. Are you bored? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Santa Posted May 5, 2022 Share #947 Posted May 5, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 58 minutes ago, jaapv said: Maybe he asked because you posted that it was garbage? The topic is not APSC but possible alternatives to the CL regardless of sensor format. The topic, if I don't read bad is "Leica apsc cameras no more". So yes we are talking about Leica apsc and apsc alternatives, if any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 5, 2022 Share #948 Posted May 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, Enrique Santa said: My friend you know exactly what I mean, so why this absurd discussion?. Are you bored? Sorry Enrique but i have not the least idea of what you mean about garbage. Insulting Japanese cameras is hardly a way to convince Leica to sell expensive APS-C cameras if that is (still?) the purpose of this admittedly curious thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 5, 2022 Share #949 Posted May 5, 2022 55 minutes ago, Enrique Santa said: My friend you know exactly what I mean, so why this absurd discussion?. Are you bored? No but the rest of us are - thoroughly! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Santa Posted May 5, 2022 Share #950 Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, lct said: Sorry Enrique but i have not the least idea of what you mean about garbage. Insulting Japanese cameras is hardly a way to convince Leica to sell expensive APS-C cameras if that is (still?) the purpose of this admittedly curious thread. As I said before: " The subject of this thread is " Leica apsc-no more", so I were talking of apsc cams, where Sony, Canon and Nikon are developing youtubers cams, and that is for me at least in a photographic point of view garbage, in comparation with Leica Fuji and Ricoh. That is my opinion , but of course you may think what you want". l'm not insulting any brand, but I'm in ny own right to think what kind of camera brands in apsc side, are doing hybrid, youtuber cams, or whatever you call in a way that is far away (I mean...yes: garbage) in almost everything than other JAPANESE brads like Fuji or Ricoh are doing. No, I'm sure that no one can convince Leica to make a new CL2 , but at least I can tell them , that as a brand they are just junk. At this moment we have no alternatives in apsc L mount and what we have in FF L mount are heavy and big cams in Panasonic and Leica side and a tiny cam in sigma side under developement imho. Last...I'm so confident in Leica new MF cameras sure they will make an adaptator for our apsc lens.😅 Edited May 5, 2022 by Enrique Santa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Santa Posted May 5, 2022 Share #951 Posted May 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said: No but the rest of us are - thoroughly! Are you taking as the manager of "the others" 🤣🤣🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 5, 2022 Share #952 Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Enrique Santa said: .I'm so confident in Leica MF new MF cameras sure they will make an adaptator for our apsc lens There is no need for that. Modern FF cameras have a crop mode that works automatically when you but put crop lenses on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Santa Posted May 5, 2022 Share #953 Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, lct said: There is no need for that. Modern FF cameras have a crop mode that works automatically when you but put crop lenses on them. Again, please read...I mean READ . Leica MF....medium format. There are some rumours even at dpreview, that Leica is about a new MF body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 5, 2022 Share #954 Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Enrique Santa said: Again, please read...I mean READ . Leica MF....medium format. There are some rumours even at dpreview, that Leica is about a new MF body. Sorry i misread but frankly i don't know what medium format has to do with this topic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Santa Posted May 5, 2022 Share #955 Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, lct said: Sorry i misread but frankly i don't know what medium format has to do with this topic... You misread sure, and I was kidding. Kidding is one thing that we , mediterranean people, loves to do. I know is hard to understand 😂 Edited May 5, 2022 by Enrique Santa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giuseppe roscigno Posted May 5, 2022 Share #956 Posted May 5, 2022 On 2/22/2022 at 1:17 AM, Louis said: All the rumors about Leica ending the production of CL and TT2 became real! I learned from a contact in Wetzlar, Leica has, indeed, decided to end APS-C line and may come with another L mount camera in the future. But don’t expect it for soon! I am still blaming Leica AG for not announcing this decision officially; so some of us could decide earlier about our gear, and maybe, avoid some extra expense. As far as I am concerned, I continue using my excellent CL as long as it keeps working, but because of their unacceptable attitude, I would never trust Leica company anymore and I will never purchase any other Leica product again! Sorry folks for the bad news, but I believe I had a moral obligation to share it with you. I can understand your disappointment and concur with your resolve. I also had serious issues with Leica recently, in particular with the Leica Store based in Milan (Italy), which drove me to the same decision you made: no more Leica's products for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 5, 2022 Share #957 Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Enrique Santa said: Are you taking as the manager of "the others" 🤣🤣🤣 You appear to both have a very thin skin combined with a confrontational outlook. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskkyle Posted May 5, 2022 Share #958 Posted May 5, 2022 Time to knock this thread on the head? 😇 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted May 5, 2022 Share #959 Posted May 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, ruskkyle said: Time to knock this thread on the head? 😇 You mean discontinue yet another LEICA-branded APS-C-related venture? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHPINLA Posted May 5, 2022 Share #960 Posted May 5, 2022 Firmware Upgrades for Leica M10 family, SL2 und Q2 Leica today introduced new firmware for three product systems. You can find all the information here! And here we go again! Some of the changes must be suitable/applicable to the CL. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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