New BP MP

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5 hours ago, Vlad Soare said:

Indeed, there's a date on the label. February 3, 2022.

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Dang that thing is brand new! I got mine (also BP) last year on July 22nd, and it was manufactured July 10th or something like that. I think Leica is potentially ramping up production because they know the demand is climbing. Perhaps we’ll see that Leica M6 Anniversary edition after all

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One on ebay, from a reputable seller, sold

for 3815$, only 4 bidders...

 

[aesop]

11 hours ago, Vlad Soare said:

Indeed, there's a date on the label. February 3, 2022.

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       ...this 'date next to the barcode' thing appears to be a recent development at Leica, Vlad Soare, and a welcome one at that. I just checked three of my boxes (internal and external) from M film camera bodies purchased between 2004 and 2008, and can confirm none of the barcode labels has an actual date printed out like yours. For me, the BP MP is something else - I hope this purchase enriches your lives further. Thanks.

 

[Vlad Soare]

It may be something recent. They must have gotten fed up with customers writing them to ask when their cameras were made. 😆
It turns out my M-A has a date printed on the label, too. I hadn't noticed that. I never pay any attention to these labels. 😊

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I bought it one month later, on June 29, 2021.

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3 hours ago, Vlad Soare said:

It may be something recent. They must have gotten fed up with customers writing them to ask when their cameras were made. 😆
It turns out my M-A has a date printed on the label, too. I hadn't noticed that. I never pay any attention to these labels. 😊

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I bought it one month later, on June 29, 2021.

It didn't start that recently.  I bought my M-A in 2017 and it had a date on the label.  

[Red Dot Cameras]

As a authorise stockist of new LEICA I can tell you that in the last three or four years I regularly get stock of black paint MPs usually at least one per month. However we usually have customers waiting. This is why you’re really find I have them on the shelf to sell. In the last three or four months I’ve been able to get quite good deliveries. Currently I have 3 available. Please don’t think I’m trying to use this as a marketing tool in anyway.

 

Regarding the date on the barcode label Leica I have been doing this for quite some time.

Ivor

[Winedemonium]

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On 2/18/2022 at 5:51 AM, aesop said:

  ...this 'date next to the barcode' thing appears to be a recent development at Leica

It was introduced sometime in 2014. 

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33 minutes ago, Red Dot Cameras said:

As a authorise stockist of new LEICA I can tell you that in the last three or four years I regularly get stock of black paint MPs usually at least one per month.

Thank you for clarifying that, it has always been my understanding cameras always trickle through to dealers give or take a few temporary glitches. But I imagine it's difficult for dealers battling urban myths about unavailability and cameras not being made, some potential customers will be dissuaded from even contacting you.

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22 hours ago, Vlad Soare said:

It may be something recent. They must have gotten fed up with customers writing them to ask when their cameras were made. 😆
It turns out my M-A has a date printed on the label, too. I hadn't noticed that. I never pay any attention to these labels. 😊

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I bought it one month later, on June 29, 2021.

My two 2014 M-A have these manufacturing dates.

2 hours ago, Winedemonium said:

It was introduced sometime in 2014. 

First batch of M-A I bought has date markings.

they are marked in these first M-A, I think from start.

On MP, I never saw this, but bought later digital Ms do have the date.

so long ago ...

Edited February 19, 2022 by a.noctilux

[Vlad Soare]

My wife shot her first film with the MP today. I'll develop it tomorrow. She's getting along quite well with the camera, except she finds the travel of the shutter button a bit too long. She likes the shorter one of my M-A. This, of course, allows me to be smug and to tease her: "well, that's what you get for buying a camera with a light meter; I told you the M-A was perfect, but you wouldn't listen..." 😆😈
I'm thinking of getting her a soft release button. I think this may alleviate the issue. 

Her shutter does sound a bit better than mine. Just a tiny bit. I don't know why. I thought the MP and M-A were mechanically identical. Maybe they aren't.

 

[a.noctilux]

NO, not soft release please.

Some people say MP with no battery IS M-A, we all M-A fan know that it's NOT.

 

My two M-A don't have same shutter release feeling or traveling (a tiny bit of 1/10mm ?) neither same shutter sound at same speed.

With time these differences remain, we can include this as mechanic individual lasting behaviors.

 

If I recall well, my two ex-MP also behaved differently.

My wife used M5 with even longer shutter trip, she never complained, no soft release.

 

[kivis]

51 minutes ago, Vlad Soare said:

I'm thinking of getting her a soft release button. I think this may alleviate the issue. 

 

It did for me. I have been using soft release buttons (regular and mini, but always convex) forever. Love Tom A.'s and Match Technical. I gte at least one extra stop with them. Please they look cool.

Edited February 19, 2022 by kivis

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1 hour ago, Vlad Soare said:

 

Her shutter does sound a bit better than mine. Just a tiny bit. I don't know why. I thought the MP and M-A were mechanically identical. Maybe they aren't.

 

as a.Noctilux pointed out the difference should be because of the mechanism for the meter that’s not present in the MA. Otherwise the should be identical.

But in my experience two new MAs CAN sound different from each other and used cameras will sound different most of the time, especially after a lot of use, services etc. My Ms all sound different from each other when listening closely. Even cameras that where bought new as a pair. 

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I use a small convex brass shutter button on my MP and M10M and it helps with the shutter feel for both of them.  Plus the brass looks good. 

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On 2/20/2022 at 2:12 AM, kivis said:

It did for me. I have been using soft release buttons (regular and mini, but always convex) forever. Love Tom A.'s and Match Technical. I gte at least one extra stop with them. Please they look cool.

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I have to agree with having extra stops, thought it was a myth

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On 2/16/2022 at 9:01 AM, Vlad Soare said:

You're right, it was only after posting the above message that I realized they weren't DX sensors. The DX sensors should be inside the space where the film cassette goes. And there aren't any in there. My mistake. 😊

Be grateful it does not have DX contacts!  I wish my M7s did NOT have them!!  Endless source of headaches even when they are working correctly.

[Huss]

On 2/16/2022 at 7:55 PM, arichter said:

Every time I see a BP MP in stock at leicacamerausa.com online shop - last time it was in the beginning of January - I am thinking what a beautiful piece of jewelry it is. Luckily my wife uses an iPhone to take pictures  Congrats, Vlad!

If you think about how much an iphone costs, and how often people upgrade them, it is cheaper to own an MP!

[Vlad Soare]

14 hours ago, Huss said:

Be grateful it does not have DX contacts!  I wish my M7s did NOT have them!!  Endless source of headaches even when they are working correctly.

Oh yes, I am. And so is my wife for that matter, as she likes to experiment with various EIs, sometimes on the same roll of film. Having to fight an automated system all the time would drive her mad.

Can't you turn them off in the M7 if they're so annoying? I thought that turning the wheel to anything but the 'DX' position would override the DX reading and would use whatever EI you chose. Doesn't it?

[Vlad Soare]

On 2/19/2022 at 8:56 PM, a.noctilux said:

NO, not soft release please.

Why? I used to have a mini soft release on a Bessa some time ago, and I remember it was quite nice. Mind you, I did hear horror stories about soft releases that broke, leaving the tip inside the shutter button and rendering it unuseable. But I thought this happened with cheap aftermarket ones. The ones from Leica should be high quality and shouldn't break. Or do they? 

Edited February 25, 2022 by Vlad Soare

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10 minutes ago, Vlad Soare said:

 

Can't you turn them off in the M7 if they're so annoying? I thought that turning the wheel to anything but the 'DX' position would override the DX reading and would use whatever EI you chose. Doesn't it?

Nope.  If you have it on DX setting, and the film is DX coded, no issues.  It just shows the film speed briefly on the VF when you turn it on and the shutter is cocked.

But.. If you have it on DX setting and the film is not DX coded, when you turn the camera on it briefly flashes 100 (ISO 100), and then you have a little red blinky light in the viewfinder that flashes the entire time the camera is on.  As a reminder..

Then it gets 'better'.  If you use non DX coded film, and manually set the film speed.  You get a little red blinky light in the viewfinder that flashes the entire time the camera is on.  As a reminder..

Wait there's more!  If you use DX coded film, but decide to manually set the film speed eg to shoot ISO 400 film at 200.  You get a little red blinky light in the viewfinder that flashes the entire time the camera is on.  As a reminder..

Is that it? NO!  If you use exposure compensation..You get a little red blinky light in the viewfinder that flashes the entire time the camera is on.  As a reminder..

Aaand.. if the battery level gets low..You get a little red blinky light in the viewfinder that flashes the entire time the camera is on.  As a reminder..  You may also get the entire display pulsating.  Or see "bc".  Or a combination of them!

Did I mention that in every case it is the same  little red blinky light in the viewfinder that flashes the entire time the camera is on?  As a reminder..

Oh, I forgot to mention the piece de la resistance.  If you use a DX coded film, but for some reason the camera cannot read the DX, you get a "5000" flashing.  Sweet.

And I didn't even mention the issue Leica had w the first DX readers that were physical, that was then fixed by changing to optical readers.  Or vice versa, I forget...

 

All Leica had to do was NOT incorporate DX coding on the M7, and none of the above would happen.  That would be bliss.