cesc Posted February 10, 2022 Share #1 Posted February 10, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all! I am considering buying my "last" ( I need to believe that) M body, and I was considering btwn M6 TTL, MP or M-A. YEsterday I felt it was an M-A my final decision, today I am feeling more towards the MP... as you can see I am a bit in a mess of which is better for me. M6TTL is getting really pricy and for the money I can afford paying a bit more for a brand new MP or M-A... I went to a camera shop and they told me that it's probably that in the next few years Leica is ending the MP, so I am not sure if that's a possibility and if that is something to have in mind, before buying an MP body. Also I would love to know your advices about MPs and M-As. Having now an M2 and M3... I am curious if I am going to feel a really improvement in quality construction and reliable M body. Has someone been is this situation? Thanks for your replys! Have a nice day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted February 10, 2022 Share #2 Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) Welcome here cesc. You know already what I told you, M-A for me after having used 2 x MP. My choice done some years ago (...almost one decade ! ). I fear time had changed now, with so many reported problems of new MP/M-A, for some years now. Good thing is Leica replaced the flawed cameras without question. So go for new MP or why not M-A (for me still ultimate film M valide for decades to come). for example this thread (link) But I still know that today I would have chosen the same dual M-A, as 2014. Arnaud Edited February 10, 2022 by a.noctilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted February 10, 2022 Arnaud! Thanks so much! I know you have been following my indecisions for quite a while, sorry for that! That's the main issue I am having, I am reading a lot of MP and MA owners complaining about quality control, and not that much M2/M3 owners complaining about it, so I am scared to sell my gear to grab a new film body and then feel it's not reaching the standards of older M bodies... Again, you can't imagine how I am taking you as a model to follow in my film career. That's why probably I want an M-A (like you)... Hope you are doing great! Also It's quite weird to write you in english! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 10, 2022 Share #4 Posted February 10, 2022 😉I'm not good model to follow. ...just take advices, or opinions, then choose by yourself. Nothing wrong in english, or french. I would not try in spanish though I would like to do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted February 10, 2022 Share #5 Posted February 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, cesc said: Arnaud! Thanks so much! I know you have been following my indecisions for quite a while, sorry for that! That's the main issue I am having, I am reading a lot of MP and MA owners complaining about quality control, and not that much M2/M3 owners complaining about it, so I am scared to sell my gear to grab a new film body and then feel it's not reaching the standards of older M bodies... Most out of box defects on the M2 and M3 were quietly fixed long ago, leaving no social media paper trail ! No problems with my 2014 M-A ; now thinking of buying a second one in the gap year before the M11-P appears. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted February 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: Most out of box defects on the M2 and M3 were quietly fixed long ago, leaving no social media paper trail ! No problems with my 2014 M-A ; now thinking of buying a second one in the gap year before the M11-P appears. you are totally right about that. Now the hard part is to find one, there's no stock in M-As in Spain right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 10, 2022 Share #7 Posted February 10, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Cesc, No stock, film or digital M for a while , as I read here and there. Maybe you can order one in your town or in France ( as Photo Suffren that you know well then a fly to Paris to collect when available ?) Some days ago, I told people that Photo Suffren had MP in chrome or black, but now neither of MP is on their website. or searching a bit in some Leica Store we can order new M-A or MP You can email to ask here : info@leicastore-paris-rive-gauche.com https://store.leica-camera.com/fr/fr/leica-m-a-typ-127-chrome-argent then Why not in second hand market. The former user had tried it out so no "new M" problems to worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted February 10, 2022 Exactly, I was thinking about looking in France, I feel, there's more analog (film) culture compared to Spain. So probably more demand there. I know in my hometown there's a few MPs in stock (chrome and BP) but not M-As... sigh! Thanks again for your help! I feel I will have to send you some film stock to thank you for all the advices and help! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 10, 2022 Share #9 Posted February 10, 2022 Thanks in advance Cesc. You may better keep those precious (more and more precious) films. I have done a big stock of films some years ago, when I worked in Paris with many films stores by then, more than one hundred ...good for many years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted February 10, 2022 you should one a Leicarnaud Store Montpellier! At least is not far from Barcelona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 10, 2022 Share #11 Posted February 10, 2022 Leicarnaud Store, good idea ! No, I don't need to do business anymore or I would not be able to do is better word. We live in small quiet pleasing town here. ... Barcelona had changed more than I think, when decades ago we went there from Paris to discover the fascinating town, ...it's Rambla and Sagrada Familia, markets/restaurants. Barcelona is not far, but not easy to go, even as intermediate town for elsewhere. Once we have been there by motorbike, to take ferry for Menorca. Traffic jamming was something ...almost we arrived too late for ferry departure. ... Last time we took train 3h 1/2 , from Montpellier to Sant Station, so big station we were almost lost again, for train to airport for flight to Canarias, in Barcelona we reserved one night hotel to be more comfortable at going date and return. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted February 10, 2022 Share #12 Posted February 10, 2022 First thing to decide is, do you want a built in meter? If so then the MP is the way to go. Otherwise the M-A. I have had both and they have worked flawlessly. Now just the M-A (and an M-P 240 digital, also flawless). Of course, I have had M3,4,6 and 7's. All had their problems except for the M3 gave me years of perfect working conditions after about a year of CLA work going back and forth to get it "right" (I should never have sold it) except that the 35mm framelines on the M-A are so clear and easy to use. So make the M-A your last film camera and enjoy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted February 10, 2022 Share #13 Posted February 10, 2022 The OP says he can’t decide between an M-A, an MP or an M6ttl. I can understand how someone might dither over buying an M-A or an MP but I can’t understand why anyone would toss an M6ttl into this dilemma. Forget the M6ttl and take comfort in the fact that the other two are newer, still current have a better viewfinder and unless you simply can’t live without ttl flash (really???), you can’t go wrong with either an MP or M-A. There, that’s potentially 33.333% of the purchasing agony removed at a stroke. Enjoy your new M-A or MP, or both. Next….. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 10, 2022 Share #14 Posted February 10, 2022 Cesc, to confuse you more, life change, so we can jump to the right gear at right moment, maybe you have already the right gear (that you don't know yet ! ) Talking to myself, now ... These are 'relax M' 👍 So those workhorses M4-2/M4-P that I used for so long never have I any complain, they never need to go for CLA or repair. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 10, 2022 Share #15 Posted February 10, 2022 8 hours ago, cesc said: I went to a camera shop and they told me that it's probably that in the next few years Leica is ending the MP, so I am not sure if that's a possibility and if that is something to have in mind, before buying an MP body. I think I've met that guy in the camera shop, he once worked in a record shop and told me to throw out all my vinyl and buy these things called cd's. For the small price difference between an MP and an MA buy the MP. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share #16 Posted February 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Cesc, to confuse you more, life change, so we can jump to the right gear at right moment, maybe you have already the right gear (that you don't know yet ! ) Talking to myself, now ... These are 'relax M' 👍 So those workhorses M4-2/M4-P that I used for so long never have I any complain, they never need to go for CLA or repair. That's sooo true! thanks for confusing me again.... When I started analog photography (for the second time) I grab a Leica M6 for 900 eur at that moment, and a 35mm Summicron v4 known as King of Bokeh,... I didn't know anything about it... and few years later I sell all of that to grab a M3 and a zeiss sonnar... For example, now I have the summicron asph... but I miss so much the v4! So yes, at that moment, I wish Cesc from the future had come and stop me for selling that lens... also, he could have told me to wait a few years to sell the M6 too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 10, 2022 Share #17 Posted February 10, 2022 M-A for $3800. Maybe he'll ship to Europe? https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1740898/0?keyword=M-A#15847997 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted February 10, 2022 Share #18 Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Ouroboros said: Forget the M6ttl and take comfort in the fact that the other two are newer, still current have a better viewfinder and unless you simply can’t live without ttl flash (really???), you can’t go wrong with either an MP or M-A. +1. And given the current asking prices for M6 TTLs - I just saw one for $4150 at a LUF site sponsor - I'd say the M-A/MP are starting to look like great deals 😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malligator Posted February 10, 2022 Share #19 Posted February 10, 2022 11 hours ago, cesc said: Arnaud! Thanks so much! I know you have been following my indecisions for quite a while, sorry for that! That's the main issue I am having, I am reading a lot of MP and MA owners complaining about quality control, and not that much M2/M3 owners complaining about it, so I am scared to sell my gear to grab a new film body and then feel it's not reaching the standards of older M bodies... Again, you can't imagine how I am taking you as a model to follow in my film career. That's why probably I want an M-A (like you)... Hope you are doing great! Also It's quite weird to write you in english! You're reading a few MP and M-A owners complaining about quality control of a tiny minority of cameras. A good camera might get a single post. A bad camera gets its own multi-page thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediumformula Posted February 10, 2022 Share #20 Posted February 10, 2022 If you already own an M3 and M2, then I would get an MP so you have a camera with a built in meter. If you later want to shoot without a meter on your MP, just remove the battery. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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