Noctilux lenses

[SrMi]

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Just now, Ornello said:

But most people don't like rangefinders. I hate 'em!

https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/06/people-dont-like-rangefinders.html

 

You hate those people or rangefinders? I love rangefinders, especially those that go up to 11 :).

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[Ornello]

3 minutes ago, SrMi said:

You hate those people or rangefinders? I love rangefinders, especially those that go up to 11 :).

You know what's funny is that Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span have had more members than can fit in Wembley stadium.

[Hanno]

14 minutes ago, SrMi said:

I was thinking of forward/backward movements that can only be handled by AF-C mode.

if you use your body to go forward/backward to focus, you solve that issue of uncontrolled body movements.

[Hanno]

50 minutes ago, Ornello said:

But most people don't like rangefinders. I hate 'em!

https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/06/people-dont-like-rangefinders.html

 

So the thread has moved from Leica should design SL-Noctilux lenses to RF are hateful cameras.

Ok...

Just to comment on the first point, fixed costs are negligible if there is volume to bring them down. As said by @a.noctilux and @adan, probably best would be to bring that discussion directly to Leica 🤞

 

Edited January 21, 2022 by Hanno

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Any news on the rumored 35mm Noctilux lens? Was it postponed due to the pandemic and might appear this year, or shelved indefinitely?

I am still hunting for the 35 APO but knowing my ongoing love affair with the 50mm f/0.95 Nocti would likely go for a faster lens, especially that both are equally unobtainable right now (for practical purposes) ...

[shirubadanieru]

never had problems focusing with a rangefinder; actually I find Slrs or focus  peaking  much harder to properly focus and way less enjoyable as an experience; especially if we are talking about low contrast very shallow depth of field focus peaking is unusable to me. Each to their own  

 

rangefinder you adjust the two images by moving the lens focus, shoot, done. Be it a nocti or an elmar it just works. Love it and it’s the only system I’ll ever want to use  
 

SL with a noctilux you have to check focus peaking then because it will be too shallow it won’t work properly so then you have to press a button to zoom in and then focus again … and then you take the shot. Meh

Edited February 23, 2022 by shirubadanieru

[Ornello]

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On 1/21/2022 at 10:23 AM, SrMi said:

You hate those people or rangefinders? I love rangefinders, especially those that go up to 11 :).

[RexGig0]

On 1/21/2022 at 8:43 AM, SrMi said:

According to Peter Karbe it is hard to focus with EVF too, as body motion comes to play (light swaying). Shooting a series of images instead of one can help.

 

On 1/21/2022 at 9:13 AM, SrMi said:

I was thinking of forward/backward movements that can only be handled by AF-C mode.

This is quite true. The photographer’s own involuntary movements will move the camera into/through/from, the plane of focus. The longer the focal length, and the shorter the distance, the more pronounced this effect will be. This was a significant factor, when I was tasked with photographing the injuries of living, breathing assault victims, as part of my duties as a first-responder public servant*. Auto Focus-Continuous (AF-C, in Nikon-speak) and AI Servo (Canon) were important, for this task, due to the very narrow DOF, with a 100mm macro lens. (I used Canon 7D and 7D Mark II cameras, which were/are action-shooting-oriented cameras, and Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro lenses, with “Hybrid” Image Stabilization, which was claimed to be more helpful with this fore-and-aft movement than prior versions of Image Stabilization.)

The alternative to Continuous AF, or AI Servo, is to fire the shutter multiple times, to “focus bracket” the shots, though if using flash, that can become tedious, as a flash unit takes a moment to re-charge, between flashes. Notably, a traumatized crime victim tends to have a low tolerance for being photographed, in the first place, and having to endure close-range bursts is even worse, so, AI Servo/Continuous AF was important. Getting a clear image, with one or two shots, from each distance, was priceless.

The SL system, of course, was not extant, when I built my kit. The two logical choices were Nikon or Canon, and Canon had the better macro lens, at the time. I have, however, read about good-quality, capable adaptors, that would allow me to use my Canon EF lenses, with AF functioning, on SL-series cameras. 🙂

I have yet to try using a Noctilux-M lens. It was the Summilux-M 50mm ASPH that lured me into adding the Leica M system, and, so, it would probably be the Noctilux f/0.95 that would be the best match, if/when I can justify spending the ~$10K US for a decent pre-owned sample. (I might rather make the 75mm Noctilux my goal.) 

*I have never claimed to be a “professional” photographer. I am not any kind of photography expert, though I was trained and mentored by two of the best people in the “genre” of evidentiary/forensic and crime scene photography. Notably, this grim duty was one factor that drove my desire to add the Leica M system, after I retired.