andybarton Posted November 23, 2021 Share #1 Posted November 23, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Built by Humans. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 Hi andybarton, Take a look here Stefan Daniels' SL2 Video. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
John Smith Posted November 23, 2021 Share #2 Posted November 23, 2021 I think the SL2 is underappreciated. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted November 24, 2021 Share #3 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) But it's selling, right? Before someones say "dUh whERe arE aLl tHoSE SECond hANd onEs frOm THen?" Edited November 24, 2021 by Slender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted November 24, 2021 Share #4 Posted November 24, 2021 14 hours ago, John Smith said: I think the SL2 is underappreciated. You are right, of course. But there's more to it. As a brand, Leica is for the vast majority of advanced camera users not even the faintest option. Too expensive, to behind technology when it comes to specs, you name it. They are drawn to the competition by price, specs and the pure lust for fast-paced model change and the inevitable GAS. But in other markest, beyond technology-affine YouTubers, there are enthusiast and pro's alike who have other values: seasoned cinematographers, film directors, creative staff in agencies, fine art artists, everyone with a deeper sense for artisan value. They have that sense for quality you must have to appreciate a Leica. Leica delivers on the hardware side, on the results and, most importantly, on the motivational side (the latter one is often the secret reason why people purchase a Leica). In this target group, the SL2 is highly appreciated, even if they don't own a SL2 or just learned about it. Their reaction is always, ah a Leica! And never, that thing is heavy, preposterously expensive, and bitterly underspecced. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 24, 2021 Share #5 Posted November 24, 2021 Funny that the captions (at least on my end) are in English, both when German speaker and English speaker. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 24, 2021 Share #6 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) For me, the SL is so good, the SL2 has no interest for me. Not saying it’s not a great camera; just that the SL is so good, I have no need to look elsewhere. I will almost certainly buy back into the SL lenses. Edited November 24, 2021 by IkarusJohn 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted November 24, 2021 Share #7 Posted November 24, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I sold my SL2 … too heavy too big , and the lenses are even worst 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted November 24, 2021 Share #8 Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, cirke said: I sold my SL2 … too heavy too big , and the lenses are even worst On the other side I dislike cameras and lenses that are too light. They feel flimsy. Gordon 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted November 24, 2021 Share #9 Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, FlashGordonPhotography said: On the other side I dislike cameras and lenses that are too light. They feel flimsy. Gordon My biggest reservation over the TL lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted November 24, 2021 Share #10 Posted November 24, 2021 7 hours ago, hansvons said: As a brand, Leica is for the vast majority of advanced camera users not even the faintest option. Too expensive, to behind technology when it comes to specs, you name it. but they do love R lenses on high end Cine cameras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted November 24, 2021 Share #11 Posted November 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, frame-it said: but they do love R lenses on high end Cine cameras Absolutely, so do I. But these are the people who appreciate the Leica way of doing things anyway. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted November 25, 2021 Share #12 Posted November 25, 2021 I am extremely happy with the SL2 . I shoot primarily in studio and now use it there instead of the S system. I consider that the Summicron 35 and 50 are the best lenses I have ever owned too. I never had any problem at all with my SL while the improvements from that were worthwhile to me. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted November 25, 2021 Share #13 Posted November 25, 2021 23 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: My biggest reservation over the TL lenses. I don’t think most of the CL lenses do. The pancakes are on the fence but the lenses I tend to use like the 35, 60 and the zooms are far more *dense* feeling than any Fuji, Sony or Sigma APSC lens, I’ve used. I do tend to use the grip and a Thumbie on my CL2 though. Cameras can be too small. Hoping the next one (yes I’ve heard the rumours that there won’t be) is Q sized. I prefer the CL (and Olympus Pen F) over the XPro2 for this reason. Gordon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted November 27, 2021 Share #14 Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 1:54 PM, IkarusJohn said: For me, the SL is so good, the SL2 has no interest for me. Not saying it’s not a great camera; just that the SL is so good, I have no need to look elsewhere. I will almost certainly buy back into the SL lenses. The SL didn't work as well for me as the SL2 because of the grip. All the rest of the stuff—IBIS, 47 MP, etc. are nice bonuses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted December 2, 2021 Share #15 Posted December 2, 2021 Benoit Linero talks of leaving the M for the SL2 in the latest LFI blog. He does gorgeous things with the SL2, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted December 2, 2021 Share #16 Posted December 2, 2021 Thread reminds me that the least of anyone’s worries is whether Leica in its present configuration has sufficient access to business expertise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2021 Share #17 Posted December 2, 2021 Will there be an L mount leica in 2030? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Markey Posted December 2, 2021 Share #18 Posted December 2, 2021 5 hours ago, steve 1959 said: Will there be an L mount leica in 2030? Must admit that my initial reaction to that vid was that the camera mustn`t be selling in the quantities they`d hoped for . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted December 2, 2021 Share #19 Posted December 2, 2021 15 hours ago, steve 1959 said: Will there be an L mount leica in 2030? Do you mean in production? IMO your question is tied to the question "Will there be a Leica company in 2030." I believe so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted December 2, 2021 Share #20 Posted December 2, 2021 Most importantly, will you be? 🤪 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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