bags27 Posted October 2, 2021 Share #1 Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) https://fujiaddict.com/2021/09/30/sigma-ceo-yamaki-san-interview-seriously-looking-at-makeing-fujifilm-fans-happy/. starts around 17:30. In a different interview a few months ago Yamaki said don't expect a foveon L mount camera in 2022. If it actually ever happens, I'd be first in line. Edited October 2, 2021 by bags27 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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helged Posted October 4, 2021 Share #2 Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/2/2021 at 4:00 PM, bags27 said: https://fujiaddict.com/2021/09/30/sigma-ceo-yamaki-san-interview-seriously-looking-at-makeing-fujifilm-fans-happy/. starts around 17:30. In a different interview a few months ago Yamaki said don't expect a foveon L mount camera in 2022. If it actually ever happens, I'd be first in line. If you are first in line; I will patiently wait behind you. An L-mount, FF Foveon sensor would be something... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted October 5, 2021 Share #3 Posted October 5, 2021 16 hours ago, helged said: If you are first in line; I will patiently wait behind you. An L-mount, FF Foveon sensor would be something... I think that would be a game changer for the L mount and it will attract new buyers into the mount 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted October 5, 2021 I agree. The idea of L glass and a Foveon sensor might take FF photography to a whole level. Digital images that could easily compete with those from Leica S or Hasselblad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V23 Posted October 13, 2021 Share #5 Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 3:19 AM, helged said: If you are first in line; I will patiently wait behind you. An L-mount, FF Foveon sensor would be something... I guess in shame to be third one in line for me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 13, 2021 Share #6 Posted October 13, 2021 I think that a Foveon sensor will not be very popular with L-mount photographers who are M lens users as well; it cannot handle rangefinder lenses very effectively, due to the layered construction of its. sensels. They are too deep to handle steep incidence angles. This is the issue holding up the development of a full-frame Foveon X3 sensor. https://ymcinema.com/2021/02/19/sigma-full-frame-foveon-x3-sensor-camera-development-status/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted October 13, 2021 Share #7 Posted October 13, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 5 hours ago, jaapv said: I think that a Foveon sensor will not be very popular with L-mount photographers who are M lens users as well; it cannot handle rangefinder lenses very effectively, due to the layered construction of its. sensels. They are too deep to handle steep incidence angles. This is the issue holding up the development of a full-frame Foveon X3 sensor. https://ymcinema.com/2021/02/19/sigma-full-frame-foveon-x3-sensor-camera-development-status/ Valid point regarding (most) M lenses. But there are - I assume - plenty of L-mount users with L-mount designed lenses. For the latter, edge effects should not be a stopping factor. But clearly, FF Foveon is still into the blue. Sigma is rather innovative (eg Foveon and fp), so one should never say never. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Morgan Posted October 13, 2021 Share #8 Posted October 13, 2021 I love the idea of this happening, and would almost certainly be somewhere in the queue. However, with all its faults (bad AF, low ISO, lousy battery life and a great difficulty in finding SA mount lenses here) the Sigma SD Quattro has become my digital of choice, so I can survive happily should a FF Foveon not come to pass rapidly or even at all. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted October 13, 2021 Share #9 Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) lets see what happens on the 19th Edited October 13, 2021 by frame-it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share #10 Posted October 13, 2021 51 minutes ago, frame-it said: lets see what happens on the 19th What's on the 19? If you can't tell us, can you tell us which 19th? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share #11 Posted October 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Charles Morgan said: I love the idea of this happening, and would almost certainly be somewhere in the queue. However, with all its faults (bad AF, low ISO, lousy battery life and a great difficulty in finding SA mount lenses here) the Sigma SD Quattro has become my digital of choice, so I can survive happily should a FF Foveon not come to pass rapidly or even at all. I have a DP2 Merrill coming next week. My very modest (great ebay price) foray into Foveon land. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted October 13, 2021 Share #12 Posted October 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, bags27 said: What's on the 19? If you can't tell us, can you tell us which 19th? next week its a new product presentation https://www.sigma-global.com/jp/news/2021/10/12/16715/ 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share #13 Posted October 13, 2021 11 hours ago, jaapv said: I think that a Foveon sensor will not be very popular with L-mount photographers who are M lens users as well; it cannot handle rangefinder lenses very effectively, due to the layered construction of its. sensels. They are too deep to handle steep incidence angles. This is the issue holding up the development of a full-frame Foveon X3 sensor. https://ymcinema.com/2021/02/19/sigma-full-frame-foveon-x3-sensor-camera-development-status/ thanks so much for this! My sense is that Sigma is the most transparent of all camera companies. Its owner/ceo is quite explicit about where Sigma is on all its products. Unlike another company we know. 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Morgan Posted October 13, 2021 Share #14 Posted October 13, 2021 3 hours ago, bags27 said: I have a DP2 Merrill coming next week. My very modest (great ebay price) foray into Foveon land. You'll get great photos, I had the first DP1 and while the results were great, but I could hardly see a thing on the rear screen, so switched to the SD. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Charles Morgan said: You'll get great photos, I had the first DP1 and while the results were great, but I could hardly see a thing on the rear screen, so switched to the SD. Thanks! Good to know. I'm so very confused by all the model numbers. This is very helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madwyn Posted December 17, 2021 Share #16 Posted December 17, 2021 FF Foveon in L mount will complete Sigma's portfolio. The current Sigma L mount cameras are more video focused, it make sense to have a photographic focused camera and offer something unique, more unique than X-Trans. I'd be interested to own a FF Foveon especially in L mount. I had several Foveon sensor cameras in the past and I still have a Quattro H in EF mount. Foveon sensors had many drawbacks like green centre/magenta corners which produce poor images even with lenses designed for them. However, when they work, the colour looks very nice and some may say it's organic while others would say there were a lot internal processing from the camera body. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share #17 Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 3:34 PM, Madwyn said: FF Foveon in L mount will complete Sigma's portfolio. The current Sigma L mount cameras are more video focused, it make sense to have a photographic focused camera and offer something unique, more unique than X-Trans. I'd be interested to own a FF Foveon especially in L mount. I had several Foveon sensor cameras in the past and I still have a Quattro H in EF mount. Foveon sensors had many drawbacks like green centre/magenta corners which produce poor images even with lenses designed for them. However, when they work, the colour looks very nice and some may say it's organic while others would say there were a lot internal processing from the camera body. Welcome to the Forum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted March 5, 2022 Share #18 Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) On 12/17/2021 at 8:34 PM, Madwyn said: However, when they work, the colour looks very nice and some may say it's organic while others would say there were a lot internal processing from the camera body. I’m on the side of “organic”, having once owned a DP2 Merrill! The main reason I sold it was due to the rather clunky issues I encountered with the RAW processing software. From an image quality perspective from a digital camera, it was the most natural and “least digital” color prints that I’ve ever enjoyed. And when it got the color right, what I saw on screen was (for me) a bit like looking at a large sheet of E6 film on a light table. In comparison, my eyes see a particular rendering in prints from every Bayer filter camera I’ve used which, to me, doesn’t look quite right for many images ….ie, my eyes detect something that is a bit processed, and it simply tells me “that’s digital”. The only digital cameras where I’ve found that not be to the case = the DP Merrill and the M Monochroms. Both of which aren’t doing demosaicing interpolation, and they’re arguably recording light in a more similar way to how film does? …. ie, light passing though the lens and more directly right into the sensor? Whatever it is, I find their output less digital, and more reminiscent of film compared to the color filter array cameras. Edited March 5, 2022 by Jon Warwick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted March 8, 2022 Share #19 Posted March 8, 2022 As many have seen, Sigma works on a prototype sensor at Stage Two in the development phase of a (possibly) forthcoming FF Foveon sensor: https://www.dpreview.com/news/1885231343/sigma-releases-update-on-the-development-of-its-three-layer-full-frame-foveon-image-sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 15, 2022 Share #20 Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 8:55 AM, helged said: As many have seen, Sigma works on a prototype sensor at Stage Two in the development phase of a (possibly) forthcoming FF Foveon sensor: https://www.dpreview.com/news/1885231343/sigma-releases-update-on-the-development-of-its-three-layer-full-frame-foveon-image-sensor. Thanks for the link to the update, Helged. I have had a SD-14 with the Sigma lens mount replaced by a Leica R mount for many years and it works exceptionally well with my R lenses and became my 'R10' camera. Alas it has sat on the shelf since the SL came out but it produced wonderfully 'organic' pictures that I've always found more pleasant than those taken through a Bayer matrix and interpolated/demosaiced. I would also join the FF-Foveon queue. Pete. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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