Ihatecars Posted May 2, 2022 Share #421 Posted May 2, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 hours ago, ramarren said: You're welcome. I like to actually try things for myself. The MS Optics 24/2 is a very extreme little lens, it color shifts rather severely on the Pixii sensor. Surprising to me, because on the CL's APS-C sensor it shows a bit of light fall-off at openings larger than f/4 but doesn't color shift, and it doesn't color shift on the Hasselblad 907x sensor either. Now, that said, I have no idea how the Aporia 24mm optical design compares to the 34mm, or how the latter would behave on the Pixii sensor. My Summilux 35mm doesn't show any color shift, nor did my Pentax-L 43mm. And the Tri-Elmar-M 28-35-50mm doesn't color shift. That's the limit of my observed data. G Thank you so much for the reply. I mistyped "34" but meant to put "24" so your information is still very relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ramarren Posted May 2, 2022 Share #422 Posted May 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ihatecars said: Thank you so much for the reply. I mistyped "34" but meant to put "24" so your information is still very relevant. It occurred to me that I didn't know of an MSOptics 34mm lens, but then I didn't have time to look it up when I responded last evening. Only so much time... 🤷♂️ I think, were I to keep the Pixii, that I'd go with a Leica Elmarit-M 24mm f/2.8 ASPH as my choice for that FoV. I had one of these lenses in the past and it was a terrific lens. It's of course not as small and light as the MS Optics Aporia 24/2, but it's not large nor heavy either. The Aporia is about a $1200 lens, one of those Leica 24mm lenses I've seen on the used market for between $1500 and $2100, so it's not entirely out of the ballpark on cost. There's also the ZEISS Biogon T* 25mm f/2.8 ZM as well, which I've heard very good things about from other users on other cameras (particularly thinking back to the days I was using the Ricoh GXR-M setup). It's about $1300 new and again, neither large nor heavy. Both of those are a good fit to the Pixii body's size and weight. I would buy either with a return privilege so that I could test it on the body before committing. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raizans Posted May 2, 2022 Share #423 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Has anyone found 21mm and 24/25mm lenses that don’t have color shift on the Pixii? For sharing photos easily. Maybe firmware updates can add corner correction for wides, starting with newer lenses and working backwards. Edited May 2, 2022 by raizans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLAUMAX Posted May 2, 2022 Share #424 Posted May 2, 2022 The Leica Elmar 24 is wonderful on the Pixii without any color cast in my experience. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loloboubou1 Posted May 2, 2022 Share #425 Posted May 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, GLAUMAX said: The Leica Elmar 24 is wonderful on the Pixii without any color cast in my experience. I confirm that the elmar 24 3.8 behaves remarkably well on Pixii. Personally I always use the lens profiles in lightroom and I don't have to complain about any chromatic aberrations. Not more with the elmar 24 than the zeiss biogon 25. I prefer the elmar for its more modern rendering, cleaner in landscape and its extreme accuracy in architecture. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted May 6, 2022 Share #426 Posted May 6, 2022 I started to write a rather verbose sum-up of my Pixii experience but decided it was better to be more succinct. After about 1000 or so photos with four/five lenses evaluation, I decided that the Pixii was not for me, despite it being a very nice camera that can make excellent photographs. I've sent it back to Pixii SAS after informing them of my decision not to keep it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Tree In Leafed Grove - Santa Clara 2022 Pixii + Color-Skopar 21mm f/3.5 v1 — Okay, the more verbose discussion of what I liked and what I didn't follows now. What's good for me: - The viewfinder/rangefinder is clear, crisp, bright, and accurate with all the lenses I tested on the camera. That included the Color-Skopar 21mm, MS Optics 24mm, Pentax-L 43mm, Summilux 35mm, Summicron 50mm, and Tri-Elmar-M 28-35-50mm (MATE). The frame lines are accurate, I have no trouble seeing the RF in sunlight or dark, and it worked well with the Ricoh GV2 accessory finder for the FoV provided by 21mm lens. I more briefly tested the Summarit 75mm, M-Rokkor 90mm, Hektor 135mm, HyperWide 10mm, and Color-Skopar 28mm, primarily to see compatibility with the RF window and feel: all worked fine in that respect. - The sensor produces excellent quality DNG raw files in color and monochrome. They are sharp and detailed, and easy to render in Lightroom Classic. - The feel of the camera is very high quality build of good materials. I love the simplicity of the controls presented, it's an easy camera to learn and remember. - I'm particularly taken with the quality of the monochrome DNG files. They capture a great range of gradation and very good detailing, particularly in FINE mode. - The use of an inexpensive and easily sourced battery is a big positive. What didn't work for me: - The controls are a good design, but their action isn't to my liking. The main exposure time dial is an example: one marking for Auto, the rest manual exposure times, good; but the dial is a bit short and difficult to get my fingers on securely at eye level, and I found myself knocking it off the Auto setting or a chosen manual time setting too easily. Another example: The settings dial similarly has light clicks in its action, but its operation is variable speed so you have to keep watching the settings in the top LCD or viewfinder carefully so as not to overshoot the desired setting. This necessity to keep watching the display for feedback is one of the worst issues for me. I tend to work my cameras mostly by feel ... the number of clicks or amount of distance I turn a focusing ring, etc. I want to glance at a display to get my base of what I am, and then adjust things by feel afterwards. The Pixii with present firmware does not do that for me. - The in-viewfinder informational display needs some polishing: the manual exposure readout is a bit flickery, it takes some work to choose the EV compensation readout, the other displays didn't really net much use/advantage to me. - The top deck information display works brilliantly indoors and when not in the sun or no bright sky above. However, in the sun and when there's a bright sky above, the LED illumination is too dim, and too small, for me to see easily with my glasses on. Since one of the notions of using the Pixii is to overcome the difficulty I have seeing the viewfinder in the Leica CL in bright sunlit environments, I see little sense in trading an inability to see the viewfinder display for another inability to see the configuration settings ... Both can be overcome with the same workarounds (using a deep shade to reduce surroundings glare). - The Pixii's firmware is still young and immature. Metering isn't 100% accurate at ISO settings below 200; the frame counter is sometimes there, sometimes not; etc. - The feel and surety of making an exposure is inconsistent. The shutter release button has a very light touch and a quiet audio accompaniment to signal its operation, but out of doors and trying to shoot quickly, it proves inconsistent such that I'm not quite sure if or when my exposure has been made. I lost several exposures due to this issue. This feel and surety is another critical issue to me. I need to be able to release the shutter and know that the exposure was made with certainty, at a particular point in time. - The Pixii power management needs work. Other, similar cameras that I have using similar batteries can run easily 250-350 exposures on a charge with little effort to keep turning the camera off and on, etc.; the Pixii takes some management to achieve anything close to that. I found myself running a full battery to empty on every walk, where on my similar walks with the Leica CL or Hasselblad 907x I can go two to four walks without even thinking about the battery, and come back with 2x to 3x the number of exposures. I'm not averse to carrying several batteries, but this seems a area that needs significant work. - Two of my often-used lenses (the latest version Color-Skopar 21 and the MS Optics 24) are a relatively poor match to the Pixii sensor, where the same two lenses work without significant issues on the CL and even the 907x sensors. This isn't a deal breaker, but it was surprising. - I had problems with the Pixii app allowing me to see the captured exposures regardless of whether it was connecting via WiFi or Bluetooth. It seemed that it would show some of the exposures, and put markers in for others, but I couldn't really tell what was there. This is another situation where it leads me to mistrust the camera because it limits my ability to know what I've captured, or not captured. - There are other, more minor issues that I'm sure the next softeware revision will correct, like the difficulty in holding onto settings when you change a battery. As I said above, the software is young and a bit rough at present; I'm sure it will all smooth out in due course. These issues together made using the camera difficult, for me, and I lack the patience to persevere with things as the camera matures. It's a little too young for me, at the present time, and other choices available promote what I want to be doing more at this time ... which is making my photographs, not developing a camera. I looked at the Pixii because it raised certain possibilities at an accessible price, and I think it a fine piece. It just needs some development and maturation, and it will be there. But that isn't my situation at present. I need the right camera to do my photography now, not in a revision or two. The monochrome DNG, Fine mode, of the Pixii was my favorite part of the camera. Set on Auto-L and manipulating exposures with the EV Compensation, it produced excellent photos for me. I've long wanted a Leica M Monochrom for this very experience, and using the Pixii in this mode confirmed that desire for me. I bet you can guess what happens next. best, G 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Tree In Leafed Grove - Santa Clara 2022 Pixii + Color-Skopar 21mm f/3.5 v1 — Okay, the more verbose discussion of what I liked and what I didn't follows now. What's good for me: - The viewfinder/rangefinder is clear, crisp, bright, and accurate with all the lenses I tested on the camera. That included the Color-Skopar 21mm, MS Optics 24mm, Pentax-L 43mm, Summilux 35mm, Summicron 50mm, and Tri-Elmar-M 28-35-50mm (MATE). The frame lines are accurate, I have no trouble seeing the RF in sunlight or dark, and it worked well with the Ricoh GV2 accessory finder for the FoV provided by 21mm lens. I more briefly tested the Summarit 75mm, M-Rokkor 90mm, Hektor 135mm, HyperWide 10mm, and Color-Skopar 28mm, primarily to see compatibility with the RF window and feel: all worked fine in that respect. - The sensor produces excellent quality DNG raw files in color and monochrome. They are sharp and detailed, and easy to render in Lightroom Classic. - The feel of the camera is very high quality build of good materials. I love the simplicity of the controls presented, it's an easy camera to learn and remember. - I'm particularly taken with the quality of the monochrome DNG files. They capture a great range of gradation and very good detailing, particularly in FINE mode. - The use of an inexpensive and easily sourced battery is a big positive. What didn't work for me: - The controls are a good design, but their action isn't to my liking. The main exposure time dial is an example: one marking for Auto, the rest manual exposure times, good; but the dial is a bit short and difficult to get my fingers on securely at eye level, and I found myself knocking it off the Auto setting or a chosen manual time setting too easily. Another example: The settings dial similarly has light clicks in its action, but its operation is variable speed so you have to keep watching the settings in the top LCD or viewfinder carefully so as not to overshoot the desired setting. This necessity to keep watching the display for feedback is one of the worst issues for me. I tend to work my cameras mostly by feel ... the number of clicks or amount of distance I turn a focusing ring, etc. I want to glance at a display to get my base of what I am, and then adjust things by feel afterwards. The Pixii with present firmware does not do that for me. - The in-viewfinder informational display needs some polishing: the manual exposure readout is a bit flickery, it takes some work to choose the EV compensation readout, the other displays didn't really net much use/advantage to me. - The top deck information display works brilliantly indoors and when not in the sun or no bright sky above. However, in the sun and when there's a bright sky above, the LED illumination is too dim, and too small, for me to see easily with my glasses on. Since one of the notions of using the Pixii is to overcome the difficulty I have seeing the viewfinder in the Leica CL in bright sunlit environments, I see little sense in trading an inability to see the viewfinder display for another inability to see the configuration settings ... Both can be overcome with the same workarounds (using a deep shade to reduce surroundings glare). - The Pixii's firmware is still young and immature. Metering isn't 100% accurate at ISO settings below 200; the frame counter is sometimes there, sometimes not; etc. - The feel and surety of making an exposure is inconsistent. The shutter release button has a very light touch and a quiet audio accompaniment to signal its operation, but out of doors and trying to shoot quickly, it proves inconsistent such that I'm not quite sure if or when my exposure has been made. I lost several exposures due to this issue. This feel and surety is another critical issue to me. I need to be able to release the shutter and know that the exposure was made with certainty, at a particular point in time. - The Pixii power management needs work. Other, similar cameras that I have using similar batteries can run easily 250-350 exposures on a charge with little effort to keep turning the camera off and on, etc.; the Pixii takes some management to achieve anything close to that. I found myself running a full battery to empty on every walk, where on my similar walks with the Leica CL or Hasselblad 907x I can go two to four walks without even thinking about the battery, and come back with 2x to 3x the number of exposures. I'm not averse to carrying several batteries, but this seems a area that needs significant work. - Two of my often-used lenses (the latest version Color-Skopar 21 and the MS Optics 24) are a relatively poor match to the Pixii sensor, where the same two lenses work without significant issues on the CL and even the 907x sensors. This isn't a deal breaker, but it was surprising. - I had problems with the Pixii app allowing me to see the captured exposures regardless of whether it was connecting via WiFi or Bluetooth. It seemed that it would show some of the exposures, and put markers in for others, but I couldn't really tell what was there. This is another situation where it leads me to mistrust the camera because it limits my ability to know what I've captured, or not captured. - There are other, more minor issues that I'm sure the next softeware revision will correct, like the difficulty in holding onto settings when you change a battery. As I said above, the software is young and a bit rough at present; I'm sure it will all smooth out in due course. These issues together made using the camera difficult, for me, and I lack the patience to persevere with things as the camera matures. It's a little too young for me, at the present time, and other choices available promote what I want to be doing more at this time ... which is making my photographs, not developing a camera. I looked at the Pixii because it raised certain possibilities at an accessible price, and I think it a fine piece. It just needs some development and maturation, and it will be there. But that isn't my situation at present. I need the right camera to do my photography now, not in a revision or two. The monochrome DNG, Fine mode, of the Pixii was my favorite part of the camera. Set on Auto-L and manipulating exposures with the EV Compensation, it produced excellent photos for me. I've long wanted a Leica M Monochrom for this very experience, and using the Pixii in this mode confirmed that desire for me. I bet you can guess what happens next. best, G ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324900-pixii-complementary-or-competition-merged/?do=findComment&comment=4430074'>More sharing options...
tsleica Posted May 6, 2022 Share #427 Posted May 6, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) $300- ..yes.. $3,000-...no... At least they took it back.. And you only had to pay shipping and customs.. Why so wordy for a product you waited for and then returned, all at your expense? Just 1 word would do..Unusable....well maybe 2 words..El Stink-o... They had 3 years to get it together.. Did they.. No.. I dont see this company being successful..unless just a yearly tax write off..and then one day..poof..gone.. How long does it take to produce a good product.. 3 years..5 years..10 years..more..jeeze.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 6, 2022 Share #428 Posted May 6, 2022 3 hours ago, tsleica said: $300- ..yes.. $3,000-...no... At least they took it back.. And you only had to pay shipping and customs.. Why so wordy for a product you waited for and then returned, all at your expense? Just 1 word would do..Unusable....well maybe 2 words..El Stink-o... They had 3 years to get it together.. Did they.. No.. I dont see this company being successful..unless just a yearly tax write off..and then one day..poof..gone.. How long does it take to produce a good product.. 3 years..5 years..10 years..more..jeeze.. Is this an opinion? I presume so. Is it useful in this thread? I don't think so. Ramarren has given a detailed account of his experience and his expectations. Thus, he helps other members evaluating the product, however immature, and he helps the makers of the Pixii improve their product. I thank him very much for his patience and his perseverance. 5 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted May 6, 2022 Share #429 Posted May 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, pop said: Is this an opinion? I presume so. Is it useful in this thread? I don't think so. Ramarren has given a detailed account of his experience and his expectations. Thus, he helps other members evaluating the product, however immature, and he helps the makers of the Pixii improve their product. I thank him very much for his patience and his perseverance. Quite right. Ramarren's very useful and pertinent comments helped me to reach my decision not to buy the Pixii. I hope that the company will be able to produce an improved version with better software, better battery life, etc. I would certainly look very seriously at that camera. I would really like to have a rangefinder again, but am not convinced that the Leica M11 is for me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted May 6, 2022 Share #430 Posted May 6, 2022 I think I would be pretty burnt to have received a camera with that price tag..and those undisclosed problems. And (I presume) have to pay shipping to and from w/full insurance (not cheap) and customs fees as well for product return. Probably a few hundred right there wasted on a dream. And all this esp after product is already 3 years old.. But that said, this is a real detailed and honest user review and ramarren is doing prospective buyers a HUGE favor and I highly doubt people will want to buy after reading this. Not a good look for the company at all. Actually the kiss of death if they dont straighten up and fix things fast. If he wanted to help Pixii out though, he probably should have just returned the cam, gave them the reasons why in private, and never mentioned it again much less a detailed public forum review. And if someone asked him how was the camera working out or such, just say it was returned for whatever reason of the moment, my car engine blew up or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 6, 2022 Share #431 Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, tsleica said: those undisclosed problems Meaning that you personally did not know of any of them, of course, even though some of them are not so well hidden in the internet. With this propaganda of yours, you could never have bought a digital Leica M before - say - the M10. The M8 couldn't be used for color work without a very expensive special filter, thus raising the price of all but the first two lenses by some ten percent. The sensor of the M9 spontaneously fell apart after just a few years, but after the warranty had expired. Also, it could not be used for serious color work with wide angle lenses. It's true that the Pixii has some severe software issues. It's also true that you can find enough information in the internet that this is the case. It is also true that software issues can be fixed, and that the products can be fixed after sale. And it's true that the makers of the Pixii are steadily working on that. I was in very similar position as Ramarren. I even had given notice to the manufacturer that I was going to return the camera. After a very serious re-evaluation I decided that the body, the rangefinder and the sensor were sufficient reason to keep the contraption. However, I have a very good grasp of software, and I trusted myself to handle the camera in a way which minimizes the impact of most software issues. I also had reasons to assume that the most pressing issues were going to be fixed within a reasonable timespan, as they indeed were. From what I now know about that software, I would suggest to turn parts of it into open source. This might greatly speed up the fixing of some of the still very annoying bugs. But then, it might not. Who knows. Edited May 6, 2022 by pop 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted May 6, 2022 Share #432 Posted May 6, 2022 49 minutes ago, tsleica said: I think I would be pretty burnt to have received a camera with that price tag..and those undisclosed problems. And (I presume) have to pay shipping to and from w/full insurance (not cheap) and customs fees as well for product return. Probably a few hundred right there wasted on a dream. And all this esp after product is already 3 years old.. But that said, this is a real detailed and honest user review and ramarren is doing prospective buyers a HUGE favor and I highly doubt people will want to buy after reading this. Not a good look for the company at all. Actually the kiss of death if they dont straighten up and fix things fast. If he wanted to help Pixii out though, he probably should have just returned the cam, gave them the reasons why in private, and never mentioned it again much less a detailed public forum review. And if someone asked him how was the camera working out or such, just say it was returned for whatever reason of the moment, my car engine blew up or something. We all now know that your opinion in this forum on any new item you have tried out will be totally untrustworthy and may be safely ignored. Your honesty is doing us all a great service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted May 6, 2022 Share #433 Posted May 6, 2022 5 hours ago, tsleica said: Why so wordy for a product you waited for and then returned, all at your expense? Ugh.... it's a camera discussion forum. It's actually interesting to read a detailed break down of the pros v cons. That's why these forums exist. I dismissed the Pixii based on the crop sensor, but it's still interesting to read real world reports on the product. If YOU aren't interested don't read them, and/or stop posting in the thread. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted May 6, 2022 Share #434 Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, tsleica said: If he wanted to help Pixii out though, he probably should have just returned the cam, gave them the reasons why in private, and never mentioned it again much less a detailed public forum review. And if someone asked him how was the camera working out or such, just say it was returned for whatever reason of the moment, my car engine blew up or something. There's already a ton of other reviews out there, both on photography blogs and on Youtube. I don't really understand why you are so violently against a forum member posting their feedback here. It all ADDS to the conversation. I am an enthusiastic Sigma FP user. It has been widely slammed as rubbish by pretty much all of the popular YouTuber camera community. But I find it to suit my needs very well. No doubt Pixii will have fans likewise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 6, 2022 Share #435 Posted May 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, Chris W said: No doubt Pixii will have fans likewise. It has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted May 6, 2022 Share #436 Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) tsleica's advice to lie to the world kinda doesn't sit well with me. The point of a discussion forum is to discuss things about the subject at hand, and to be honest and credible in doing so. Without that fundamental honesty as a given, there is no point to such discussion; when you act in a covert fashion, you subvert the purpose of the discussion. I think the Pixii is a fine concept and a good camera. It needs refinement, and that takes time, lots of time. Having worked in the development of complex devices for the better part of half a century, I'd say that Pixii SAS has done a remarkable job in a very short time, and I'll keep tracking their progress. The Pixii camera is a very good piece of equipment; I'll likely buy another some day if it keeps improving. The folks at Pixii SAS are great to work with, I look forward to the opportunity to work with them again in the future. Thank you to those who read my comments in the spirit with which they were offered. G Edited May 6, 2022 by ramarren 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raizans Posted May 6, 2022 Share #437 Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, tsleica said: But that said, this is a real detailed and honest user review and ramarren is doing prospective buyers a HUGE favor and I highly doubt people will want to buy after reading this. More likely people who are interested will merely wait until the issues they care about are resolved and then buy it. All I have to wait for is a new sensor stack or firmware that fixes color shift on wides and maybe better battery life. The software quirks can be fixed in due time since the fundamentals are otherwise sound enough for me. Edited May 6, 2022 by raizans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted May 6, 2022 Share #438 Posted May 6, 2022 There aren't too many digital rangefinder cameras on the market... If that's what you're looking for, the Pixii is a good choice at a reasonable price if you want a new camera and not a used Leica M or Epson R-D1. New Epsons are no longer available, and the least expensive new digital Leica M is 2 or 3 times the price of a Pixii. If sensitive to price, I'll take a few compromises. Basically, make the information display more readable, make the feel of the shutter release more secure and consistent, and improve the power management ... those three things would make a Pixii worthwhile for me. I expect improvement on all the things I mentioned, albeit not so much on color shift issues as that seems a different kind of thing. That was a minor issue for me... CornerFix does an extremely effective job and integrates well into most raw processing workflows. I'm off on another adventure now. G 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raizans Posted May 7, 2022 Share #439 Posted May 7, 2022 The optical diagram of the 24mm f/3.8 Elmar is very similar to the 21mm f/3.4 Super-Elmar. The latter might also be a good match to the Pixii's sensor and require no post-processing in CornerFix. 24mm f/3.8 Elmarhttps://photographylife.com/lenses/leica-elmar-m-24mm-f3-8-asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 21mm f/3.4 Super-Elmarhttps://photographylife.com/lenses/leica-super-elmar-m-21mm-f3-4-asph The cost of a camera and 28mm-e lens kit for a Pixii and Leica M10 are basically the same. I wonder how good the Leica app is.... $2850 Pixii, 32GB (+$100 import duty?) $2800-2900 Leica 21mm f/3.4 Super-Elmar, w/hood $150-350 accessory viewfinder, 28mm total $5900-6200 $5000 Leica M10 $900 Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II $100 LH-12 hood total $6000 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 21mm f/3.4 Super-Elmar https://photographylife.com/lenses/leica-super-elmar-m-21mm-f3-4-asph The cost of a camera and 28mm-e lens kit for a Pixii and Leica M10 are basically the same. I wonder how good the Leica app is.... $2850 Pixii, 32GB (+$100 import duty?) $2800-2900 Leica 21mm f/3.4 Super-Elmar, w/hood $150-350 accessory viewfinder, 28mm total $5900-6200 $5000 Leica M10 $900 Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II $100 LH-12 hood total $6000 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324900-pixii-complementary-or-competition-merged/?do=findComment&comment=4431174'>More sharing options...
tsleica Posted May 7, 2022 Share #440 Posted May 7, 2022 Quote tsleica's advice to lie to the world kinda doesn't sit well with me. Its not lying to the world..its keeping your mouth shut..if you dont want to put a knife in that companies heart. And hurt them business wise (I cant believe I'm sticking up for Pixii..lol). Like if someone asks if they look great today in their ugly new polka dot dress in front of a crowd of people..but they look horrible.. Probably best to keep your mouth shut..if you care about that person.. And let them know in private.. Again..Pixii is like an Apple product..firmware updates and compatibility...always wishing for.. but..probably never happens.. I wouldn't buy believing this will get any better any time soon soon..it may..but it may not..they had 3 years already.. Quote I am an enthusiastic Sigma FP user. It has been widely slammed as rubbish by pretty much all of the popular YouTuber camera community. But I find it to suit my needs very well. No doubt Pixii will have fans likewise. So am I.....a Sigma FP owner and user..I really luv this camera concept..but in many ways..its a dog too..but the files and concept..are spot on. If someone says its a dog..I'm not gonna get my panties all bunched up..and feel like my feelings have been hurt or some stupid reaction like that.. Everyone on YT luvs the 45mm on it..I do too..but..in some ways..that lens is a dog too..not sharp..and I'm not a sharpness freak at all..but the resolution..well... But I got the lens free with the Sigma kit. So who am I to complain. I really dont get why people take their opinions and cameras so seriously.. This one/Pixii is not ready for prime time..and G returned his at his expense.. That says it all..no matter how passive aggressive..his endorsements are. Basically..G says.. This camera is really nice for some folks....and someday will be great.. But not for me..lol.. In my words..its a 3K dog.. When Pixii decides to make it a cute lil kitty cat..that actually works.. Then I will probably buy it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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