voigtlander,the best leica lenses in the world

[Dennis]

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2 hours ago, tom0511 said:

Some CV lenses are pretty big, and as I said before they dont have coding. (Of course there are work arounds)

Yes, there are workarounds, but lens detection on Auto, it would always be better. And easier. I have in total one Leica lens, one CV, and one Zeiss. The user profile management is awful, and sometimes I struggle with it. I set the right saved profile when I switch lens, and then something happens (who knows), and I'm like out of it. Sometimes I do change a lens, but I forget to switch profiles. With AUTO, life is definitely better and more manageable. Long-life to the 6-bit coding

2 hours ago, tom0511 said:

I didnt mean that C V lenses would be weaker options. However I also dont believe they are overall better than Leica lenses.

Hey, this is me. But I believe that $600 for a brand new Nokton 35/1.4II is an absolute bargain. And I don't want to compare it with the Leica Summilux 35/1.4 pre asph (I never saw it or use it), but I would not spend that much for a used lens when the Nokton can give me a "similar" result. Of course, don't take me seriously when I say similar; it's just a no-connoisseur comparison. But similar characteristics, maybe. I have read people selling the 50 Lux asph after using the new CV 50/1.5 II.

I justify the price of a new Leica 35/2 APO? Yes, absolutely. Having such rendering in such small size, plus the 30cm MFD. It's an absolute engineer wonder. But I would not spend that much on a lens. That's why the compromise of Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses is incredible. I have only Voigtlander lenses so far in my list (of new items) and just one Leica lens: the one and only 21SEM. Then there are the used Leica options, which make even more sense when looking for a specific rendering. I would love to buy a 35 Summicron v4. Or a 24/3.4...

The important thing is to be happy with your gear and photos and share them here, so everyone is happy. And inspired. And we always make better choices if we know what a lens is capable of, right?

Folks, have a wonderful weekend 

 

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14 hours ago, Harpomatic said:

Have you thought of the Planar 50mm F2 from Zeiss? It is a 45mm more than a 50mm. Stellar lens as well!

Thanks for your suggestion.  I will look at it.  I would never have thought of another lens denominated as 50mm, because I already have a 50mm Nikorr and a 50mm Summilux.  On my Leica, I use the 50mm lens quite a lot.  My only Zeiss lens is a 21mm F2 that I use on my Nikon D800.  I like that lens quite a bit, even though I had to return my first one for vignetting; the dealer immediately sent me a new one.  However, since buying my M10 several years ago, I rarely use Nikon bodies or lens with Nikon mounts, except the longer lenses or Zoom lenses for wildlife.

Edited August 14, 2021 by david.kize

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5 hours ago, Dennis said:

Yes, there are workarounds, but lens detection on Auto, it would always be better. And easier. I have in total one Leica lens, one CV, and one Zeiss. The user profile management is awful, and sometimes I struggle with it. I set the right saved profile when I switch lens, and then something happens (who knows), and I'm like out of it. Sometimes I do change a lens, but I forget to switch profiles. With AUTO, life is definitely better and more manageable. Long-life to the 6-bit coding

Hey, this is me. But I believe that $600 for a brand new Nokton 35/1.4II is an absolute bargain. And I don't want to compare it with the Leica Summilux 35/1.4 pre asph (I never saw it or use it), but I would not spend that much for a used lens when the Nokton can give me a "similar" result. Of course, don't take me seriously when I say similar; it's just a no-connoisseur comparison. But similar characteristics, maybe. I have read people selling the 50 Lux asph after using the new CV 50/1.5 II.

I justify the price of a new Leica 35/2 APO? Yes, absolutely. Having such rendering in such small size, plus the 30cm MFD. It's an absolute engineer wonder. But I would not spend that much on a lens. That's why the compromise of Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses is incredible. I have only Voigtlander lenses so far in my list (of new items) and just one Leica lens: the one and only 21SEM. Then there are the used Leica options, which make even more sense when looking for a specific rendering. I would love to buy a 35 Summicron v4. Or a 24/3.4...

The important thing is to be happy with your gear and photos and share them here, so everyone is happy. And inspired. And we always make better choices if we know what a lens is capable of, right?

Folks, have a wonderful weekend 

 

I've read people saying the 50 Lux is equalled or bested in ways by the CV 50 1.2 but the 1.5 II? I guess I missed those conversations 🙃 Anyway, it doesn't change the point you were making, so carry on 🙂

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On 8/13/2021 at 7:46 PM, charles tay said:

Which other Voigtlander lens did you also get for your m10 ? 

Hi. I have the new Ultron 28 and 35 as well as the new 75 1.5, I really enjoy them all on the M10.
 

Voigtlander makes fantastic lenses, never had one I didn’t like, and have used their other 35 and 50s on Sony NEX/6500/A7 with great results. That’s an enjoyable combination. 
 

Leica is making fantastic lenses too, but the Voigtlanders have a really wonderful solid feel, and I get just as good results with those - and at the price they are hard to resist.

 

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[Radost]

I wish they update the 40mm F1.4 and improve the performance wide open while retaining the size. I dont mind weight increase.

[Lee S]

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I’d love Voigtlander to do a F2.8 APO. All the image quality but without the size of the F2 APO Lanthar. 

Edited August 21, 2021 by Lee S

[charles tay]

On 8/17/2021 at 7:27 PM, cboy said:

 

wow thanks for sharing. 

[fotografr]

I was already impressed with Voigtlander due to two recent purchases--a 50mm f2 Nickel Heliar followed by a Nokton 75mm f 1.5. Today I am completely blown away. I took delivery this morning of a new Voigtlander 35mm f 1.2 asph Version III, which is smaller, lighter and sharper than the two previous versions. I expected "reasonable sharpness" wide open. What I got instead was tack sharp at f 1.2 with a beautiful, creamy bokeh. So far I've only used it on my M10M but I'd expect the same results with the M10-R. 

The price of this fabulous lens was just over $1K with a hood. The focus is very smooth and the aperture clicks are solid.

Edited August 31, 2021 by fotografr

[Ray Vonn]

5 hours ago, fotografr said:

I was already impressed with Voigtlander due to two recent purchases--a 50mm f2 Nickel Heliar followed by a Nokton 75mm f 1.5. Today I am completely blown away. I took delivery this morning of a new Voigtlander 35mm f 1.2 asph Version III, which is smaller, lighter and sharper than the two previous versions. I expected "reasonable sharpness" wide open. What I got instead was tack sharp at f 1.2 with a beautiful, creamy bokeh. So far I've only used it on my M10M but I'd expect the same results with the M10-R. 

The price of this fabulous lens was just over $1K with a hood. The focus is very smooth and the aperture clicks are solid.

I’ve seen some of the images rendered from that lens, they look to me, dare I say it, stunning, looking on par with images rendered by the Zeiss Distagon ZM 35mm F1.4 and better than the Voigt 50mm F1.2 output.  I’d have a very hard time believing any current edition Summilux or Summicron 35mm surpasses it for rendering. 

[fotografr]

37 minutes ago, Ray Vonn said:

I’ve seen some of the images rendered from that lens, they look to me, dare I say it, stunning, looking on par with images rendered by the Zeiss Distagon ZM 35mm F1.4 and better than the Voigt 50mm F1.2 output.  I’d have a very hard time believing any current edition Summilux or Summicron 35mm surpasses it for rendering. 

I completely agree. I've been a hard core advocate for Leica glass for nearly 40 years but these new Voigtlander lenses are rapidly converting me.

[fotografr]

M10-R, Voigtlander 35mm f 1.2 asph Version III

All images shot at f/1.2

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Edited September 1, 2021 by fotografr

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On ‎8‎/‎31‎/‎2021 at 7:44 PM, fotografr said:

I was already impressed with Voigtlander due to two recent purchases--a 50mm f2 Nickel Heliar followed by a Nokton 75mm f 1.5. Today I am completely blown away. I took delivery this morning of a new Voigtlander 35mm f 1.2 asph Version III, which is smaller, lighter and sharper than the two previous versions. I expected "reasonable sharpness" wide open. What I got instead was tack sharp at f 1.2 with a beautiful, creamy bokeh. So far I've only used it on my M10M but I'd expect the same results with the M10-R. 

The price of this fabulous lens was just over $1K with a hood. The focus is very smooth and the aperture clicks are solid.

Thank you for your observation about Nokton 35 1.2 III. Interesting. Seems really a nice lens.

Forum member @Keith (M) posted spectacular BW photos using the same lens...

Edited September 2, 2021 by Cobram

[Yarosuav]

Regarding the Nokton 35mm 1.2 III, I purchased it recently and spent a two week vacation using only this one lens exclusively on my M10-R (when I travel with family I always take one body/one lens only). Link to the gallery is below - as I said all pics are on M10-R, and most are wide-open. 

As a background, I also have the previous version of the 35mm 1.2 Nokton (II) and also the Summilux 35mm FLE. I like the new Nokton - it’s much sharper than the v.II and also smaller, but it’s still not as sharp as the FLE. Although that’s probably not a fair comparison since the FLE is not 1.2… I also think the FLE has more of a 3D pop to it and more contrast in general, but on the flip side the FLE’s bokeh is somewhat harsher (depending on the distance and other conditions). 

So while I think the 35mm 1.2 III is a great lens for the price, I’m going to go back to the FLE as my 35mm option. One other huge factor for me is the focusing tab on the FLE - makes focusing much faster in my experience, and while I like the feel of the focusing ring on the Nokton, I really miss the focusing tab.

I’m just an amateur who likes taking pictures, so please take all these comments with a grain of salt…

Link to the Nokton pictures below:

https://www.berndt.photography/201208poland

 

 

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36 minutes ago, jarek0423 said:

Regarding the Nokton 35mm 1.2 III, I purchased it recently and spent a two week vacation using only this one lens exclusively on my M10-R (when I travel with family I always take one body/one lens only). Link to the gallery is below - as I said all pics are on M10-R, and most are wide-open. 

As a background, I also have the previous version of the 35mm 1.2 Nokton (II) and also the Summilux 35mm FLE. I like the new Nokton - it’s much sharper than the v.II and also smaller, but it’s still not as sharp as the FLE. Although that’s probably not a fair comparison since the FLE is not 1.2… I also think the FLE has more of a 3D pop to it and more contrast in general, but on the flip side the FLE’s bokeh is somewhat harsher (depending on the distance and other conditions). 

So while I think the 35mm 1.2 III is a great lens for the price, I’m going to go back to the FLE as my 35mm option. One other huge factor for me is the focusing tab on the FLE - makes focusing much faster in my experience, and while I like the feel of the focusing ring on the Nokton, I really miss the focusing tab.

I’m just an amateur who likes taking pictures, so please take all these comments with a grain of salt…

Link to the Nokton pictures below:

https://www.berndt.photography/201208poland

 

 

Really nice pictures. 👍🏻  Hard to assess sharpness, but out of focus area is really nice.  I always wanted a 35 with small aperture (and sharp at full aperture!) It gives the opportunity to make beautiful portraits with environment.  So this VO might be an option or Leica f1.4 or when / if Leica ever comes with a 35 Noctilux … 😁

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On 9/1/2021 at 3:02 PM, fotografr said:

M10-R, Voigtlander 35mm f 1.2 asph Version III

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Great colors!

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I don't shoot my Voitlander 75/1.5 very much, but took it out for a spin today. Here's a nice indication of how sharp that thing is wide open on the M10R.

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Hi, Römerpassage in Mainz/D ... (M9 - VOIGTLÄNDER Nokton v1 1,2/35 f 1,2) :

 

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The bokeh looks quite grainy. - Later Nokton versions do not show this, I suppose ... ---

 

 

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On 8/6/2021 at 4:02 PM, pippy said:

That illustration is sheer and utter nonsense and grossly misleading; so much so that it is a complete joke. There is no way in the world a speck of dust on the rear element of, say, any M-mount lens could possibly create such a mess as the above image suggests. Not even close.

Do us all - including yourself - a favour; place a tiny speck of dust on any lens you have to hand, expose a frame  and post the result here so we can all - you included - can inspect exactly how much of an impact a speck of dust can have.

Might I suggest you carry out the above experiment before you reply? It might save you from further embarassment.

Philip.

I'm late to this thread but a quick story.  I once bought a Speed Graphic 4x5 with a 7 inch Kodak Ektar lens with a good sized chip (.5mm x 1.5mm) in the front element.  I paid $35 dollars for the set from an antique shop who said the lens was "broken".  Upon return home took a black Sharpie and filled in the chip and shot a few sheets of film.  From f6.3 (wide open) to f16 there was ZERO hint of anything wrong with the lens. From f18-f45 there was a blur on the negative.  I used that set up for several years before gifting it to a young photography student.I seriously doubt the dust in the lens in question will show up in an image.

Below is a shot of Jerome, Az shot with the Speed Graphic about 25 years ago. 

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On 10/19/2021 at 2:44 AM, crony said:

Hi, Römerpassage in Mainz/D ... (M9 - VOIGTLÄNDER Nokton v1 1,2/35 f 1,2) :

 

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The bokeh looks quite grainy. - Later Nokton versions do not show this, I suppose ... ---

 

 

Digital noise, often referred to as grain, is not caused by a lens. It's a function of pushing exposures, as in high ISO settings. The only impact a lens would have on noise (grain) is that a slower lens with a maximum aperture of f/3.5, for example, would require a higher ISO setting than a lens that opens up to f/1.4.