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Hello Ko.Fe.,

The reason that you had to correctly invent the phrase "beaver tail" (Typically Canadian.) for an early 50mm Summicron F2 version IV, to replace the clearly not accurate phrase "tiger claw", is because, somehow, over the years, the original term "tiger's PAW" has become "tiger claw". There certainly is no "tiger claw" on the lens.

Best Regards,

Michael

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2 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said:

Typ 3 (most mocked and mopped Cron on the web) was awesome, film and digital lens. Except odd focus block. No glare, no flare.

Typ 4 is where I had it famous veiling glare. Mine was wrongly called as tiger claw. While in origin it is beaver tail. : )

Interesting indeed. I would have said exactly the opposite on all counts which is not that usual :D. My 50/2 v3 from 1971 had some veiling flare indeed and neither my early Canada made 50/2 aka "tiger claws" v4 nor my late German made 50/2 v4 did exhibit the glare you're referring to in 30+ years. What i heard of is some strange "CVF" (central veiling flare) as we used to say about the 50/2 apo when shooting dark subjects into the light at f/16 but it is an aperture i almost never use, so perhaps the famous or infamous glare comes from that. As for reviews i have nothing against Mr Rockwell and others but i had (v3) and still have (both v4) the real things in my bags since the seventies and eighties. BTW for the rare newbies here ;) "tiger claws" were convexe focus tabs mounted on early 21/2.8 v1, 28/2.8 v2, 35/2 v4 and 50/2 v4 Leitz lenses if memory serves me well but i have no experience with those 21 and 28 versions. 

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10 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said:

The short, rounded, curvey things with lines are "PAWS". 

aka "tiger claws" but neither is mentioned in the Leitz specs of course  ;)

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Hello LCT,

When these convex focusing tabs were first introduced & people wrote about them they were sometimes referred to as "tiger's paws". Since they look like paws. They do not look like claws. But then, this is a World where people say "You can't have your cake & eat it too." Which, like the phrase "tiger claw", is a phrase which does NOT convey the meaning it is meant to represent. Which, by the way, "tiger's paw" does.

Best Regards,

Michael

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15 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said:

Hello LCT,

When these convex focusing tabs were first introduced & people wrote about them they were sometimes referred to as "tiger's paws". Since they look like paws. They do not look like claws. But then, this is a World where people say "You can't have your cake & eat it too." Which, like the phrase "tiger claw", is a phrase which does NOT convey the meaning it is meant to represent. Which, by the way, "tiger's paw" does.

Best Regards,

Michael

Hi Michael, depends on the country perhaps. In Europe i had never heard of any "paw" or "claw" before the nineties IIRC. What i heard then was "tiger claw" or "tiger claws" as a colloquial expression coming from Asia but i have nothing against "paw" of course. Here a "king of bokeh tiger claw" from South Africa: https://tinyurl.com/2px9ydp4 :cool:

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17 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said:

In the beginning they were referred to as "convex focusing tabs".

That's the term we used to use in Europe when i bought my first 50/2 v4 in 1981.

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