Sigma FP-L

[cboy]

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Lets hope some time that sigma will put out a leica m af adapter sometime since the fpl has now pdaf which is required for a af adapter to work like with other systems

Btw saw this was intresting... Ssd rack accessory

If sigma had done this along with integrated evf as a single accessory then it would of been a game changer....

 

[intermediatic]

1 hour ago, bags27 said:

Thanks. I don't know why a lack of communication would affect focus. I've used M and R lenses aplenty with cameras that did not communicate with the cameras, and the focus was determined by my focusing through the EVF or liveview. Am I missing something about this camera?

I don't see why it would either. I don't think the lack of focus has anything to do with it. I just don't get why I'm having such trouble focussing. Maybe peaking is completely inaccurate. 

[bags27]

2 hours ago, cboy said:

Lets hope some time that sigma will put out a leica m af adapter sometime since the fpl has now pdaf which is required for a af adapter to work like with other systems

Btw saw this was intresting... Ssd rack accessory

If sigma had done this along with integrated evf as a single accessory then it would of been a game changer....

 

In case you missed it originally, this is his remarkable video showing how he made the flip screen in the first place.

 

[Alan Friedman]

14 hours ago, intermediatic said:

I don't see why it would either. I don't think the lack of focus has anything to do with it. I just don't get why I'm having such trouble focussing. Maybe peaking is completely inaccurate. 

Peaking is accurate but you might try focusing at magnification without it... and test with a tripod to make sure camera or subject movement is not a factor.

[Alan Friedman]

15 hours ago, cboy said:

Lets hope some time that sigma will put out a leica m af adapter sometime since the fpl has now pdaf which is required for a af adapter to work like with other systems

Btw saw this was intresting... Ssd rack accessory

If sigma had done this along with integrated evf as a single accessory then it would of been a game changer....

 

What would a Leica M auto focus adapter do? 

[jdlaing]

2 hours ago, Alan Friedman said:

What would a Leica M auto focus adapter do? 

Autofocus an M lens.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1233758-REG/techart_pro_talmea7_leica_m_lens_to.html

[Alan Friedman]

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13 minutes ago, jdlaing said:

Autofocus an M lens.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1233758-REG/techart_pro_talmea7_leica_m_lens_to.html

Thanks... I've never heard of such a thing.

There are quite a few good autofocus options for the fp series from Sigma and Leica. I find myself drawn to the simplicity of M-mount and have been using my autofocus options much less frequently than I imagined on both the fp and on the Leica SL. As I get older, reducing the number of things I have to think helps my focus... literally and creatively. ;^)

Edited May 19, 2021 by Alan Friedman

[jdlaing]

26 minutes ago, Alan Friedman said:

Thanks... I've never heard of such a thing.

There are quite a few good autofocus options for the fp series from Sigma and Leica. I find myself drawn to the simplicity of M-mount and have been using my autofocus options much less frequently than I imagined on both the fp and on the Leica SL. As I get older, reducing the number of things I have to think helps my focus... literally and creatively. ;^)

It works by moving the lens in and out. Not by turning the focus helicoid. Rudimentary at best. I use my M lenses on the LUMIX S1R as well.

Edited May 19, 2021 by jdlaing

[steveBK]

Techart adapters are interesting but as pointed out its rudimentary AF by moving lens in/out not using the focus ring.

This means you throw away a bunch of advanced optics you paid for like Floating Lens Elements, etc.
What elements/groups move during focussing is part of the lens design..

It sort of reminds me of the old Contax N1 which focussed with manual lenses by moving the film plane!

[steveBK]

Anyways, photos.. Bunny!

fpL & 100-400 just now 

 

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[intermediatic]

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A good one for zooming in on, but I think Flickr limits that unfortunately. ISO 800. Showing a bit of noise (not sure how much you'll see that on Flickr), but nothing offensive. The Sigma 24-70.   

I've sent off the busted EVF-11 to Sigma. It may be 6 to 8 weeks if it has to go to Japan to be repaired and as a new item, that is likely. 

I guess it's time to sell off the Fuji gear once and for all. 

So what's the smallest standard zoom I could get for times when I really want to go small (I might, just might even take off the  

 

[bags27]

38 minutes ago, intermediatic said:

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A good one for zooming in on, but I think Flickr limits that unfortunately. ISO 800. Showing a bit of noise (not sure how much you'll see that on Flickr), but nothing offensive. The Sigma 24-70.   

I've sent off the busted EVF-11 to Sigma. It may be 6 to 8 weeks if it has to go to Japan to be repaired and as a new item, that is likely. 

I guess it's time to sell off the Fuji gear once and for all. 

So what's the smallest standard zoom I could get for times when I really want to go small (I might, just might even take off the  

 

very nice! Click on the photo in Flickr and it'll enlarge a couple of times. The wing movement on the bugs become quite visible. This is a screen shot: far better on Flickr

[intermediatic]

Thanks, Ken! Yes, that's perfect. Trilliums are an amazing flower, pollinated by flies. 

[Alan Friedman]

Last night's beautiful gibbous moon, shot  with Sigma fp-L and 1000 f7.7 Zeiss fluorite apochromat. I really appreciated the new articulating EVF - very easy and positive focus at 8x magnification.

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[Alan Friedman]

Normally I would use a monochrome streaming camera and average a pile of individual frames, creating a mosaic if the seeing supports zooming in for a close look. It was great fun to test the new fp-L - a very quick and effective method for wide field shots of the moon. The seeing didn't support it last night, but I could multiply the focal length by two with a tele-extender and fit the full disk of the moon on the fp-L sensor when the air turbulence is lower. The method I use to attach the camera is an old Nikon F camera adapter (a 2" tube that fits in the focuser where an eyepiece would go) with a Novoflex Nikkor-Leica L adapter. As mentioned above, the EVF tilted up works very well to focus the camera comfortably and accurately.

Here is a photo of one of my longer lenses that I pulled out to use last night. It is tracking the object so no need to fiddle with the location of the moon in the frame while shooting. This is a very fine and rare apochromatic refractor, made by Zeiss c.1994. It was expensive at the time and sold poorly - Zeiss got out of the telescope business after this effort. A triplet design with a calcium fluorite element - you can see the absence of chromatic aberration at the limb of the moon. If you find one today, it will run a little more than a Leica apo-summicron-m 35. But not that much more. ;^)

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It will take some experimentation to figure out the plusses and minuses of the various shooting options available on the fp-L. I shot a number of exposures using the full frame and then moved to the 1.53 crop - a logical choice to remove some unused sky background and have smaller file sizes. But there does seem to be a sacrifice in dynamic range in the cropped sensor mode as reported in the Cined lab tests and review of this camera. Their focus is video but the variation in crop modes seems to be a factor in still use as well. Will take some more shooting to understand if and when this comes into play.

 

[Chris W]

You are doing a great job of selling the FP-L, better than most Youtube reviewers.

I still love the quality of my original FP. M lenses work great in manual mode. For auto-focus it's hard to beat the latest Sigma L mount lenses.

[intermediatic]

Ok, I take it back, I am officially scared by the strap situation. I double check the screw in connections every time I go out and *twice* the connections have come loose on brief hikes.  Also the EVF came apart on one. Not happy about this. It may be that I need to carry this camera in a shoulder bag at all times.  

[Alan Friedman]

15 hours ago, intermediatic said:

Ok, I take it back, I am officially scared by the strap situation. I double check the screw in connections every time I go out and *twice* the connections have come loose on brief hikes.  Also the EVF came apart on one. Not happy about this. It may be that I need to carry this camera in a shoulder bag at all times.  

This puzzles me. I’ve schlepped the first generation fp on my shoulder for many miles over two years and have never had the screw lugs loosen a bit. Are you sure you have the pieces assembled in the right order and connected correctly? 

[cboy]

15 hours ago, intermediatic said:

Ok, I take it back, I am officially scared by the strap situation. I double check the screw in connections every time I go out and *twice* the connections have come loose on brief hikes.  Also the EVF came apart on one. Not happy about this. It may be that I need to carry this camera in a shoulder bag at all times.  

Or get a cage 

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[steveBK]

I've had this happen 1-2 times when first getting the camera, and once tightened securely with a coin I have been good for months.

I also use the Niceyrig which come with a magnetic tool under the baseplate for attaching/removing the lugs so I can get them screwed down really tight.