M10-D Monochrom / M10M-D

[Linford]

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Will Leica offer the M10M~D? That would be hard to resist. 
 

[a.noctilux]

Hello Linford,

this would be ultimate Monochrom for me ...some years ago.

I had waited for it for long.

For a while, I don't wait for that "would-be" anymore, as having the two first Monochrom for some years now, M10M-D if released one day wouldn't even tempt me 😉.

 

Now I don't even need to resist 😇.

[AndreasG]

How many customers would Leica reach with a M10M-D? I guess not sufficient to justify any investment in such a project.

[newtoleica]

Just now, AndreasG said:

How many customers would Leica reach with a M10M-D? I guess not sufficient to justify any investment in such a project.

unfortunately so, a niche within a niche. Though it should have been a pretty easy 'a la carte' option.....

 

[AndreasG]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb newtoleica:

Though it should have been a pretty easy 'a la carte' option.....

This would be perfect, even against a substantially higher price tag or long lead time

[didier]

This would have been my dream digital M as well.

I was told by a Leica rep they will never come out with the niche within a niche camera, so I bought the M10M and must admit 1) I am very happy and 2) I almost never use the screen  

[AndreasG]

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vor 8 Stunden schrieb Steven:

they just need to put the sensor of the M10M in the body of the M10D

Formally yes, actually it is a little more work:

• Create a Bill of Materials
• Bring the data into the ERP System
• Create assembly guidelines
• Create quality control rules
• Adapt hardware
• Adapt software
• Apply for approvals (CE etc.)
• Generate documentation and manuals
• Assign assembly capacity and train the people
• Define packaging, pricing strategy and marketing

Well, that takes around two years and more according to my industrial experience.

[rtai]

What a missed opportunity. I own an MP and really appreciate the M-A if I can afford one these days. If only Leica can in the same spirit issue a non battery dependent, meterless M10M I would be over the moon. Give me a modern black paint M3 without the battery and all the electronics just a 60mp sensor please.

[Stef63]

5 minutes ago, rtai said:

... without the battery and all the electronics just a 60mp sensor please.

And how do you think a digital sensor would work without a battery?   What energy source do you have in mind?  

[Bikie John]

2 hours ago, Stef63 said:

And how do you think a digital sensor would work without a battery?   What energy source do you have in mind?  

Solar cells? Might limit the low-light performance a bit, though

John

[a.noctilux]

M-D 262 that I use for a while is the closest to battery-INdependent digital M as possible.

Two or three weeks of use without thinking "battery".

 

M10M-D with smaller M10 style battery may last a quite bit less, but may it be "long enough" as M10-D now (without using 020 or wifi though ) !

[mmradman]

On 5/11/2021 at 7:14 AM, rtai said:

What a missed opportunity. I own an MP and really appreciate the M-A if I can afford one these days. If only Leica can in the same spirit issue a non battery dependent, meterless M10M I would be over the moon. Give me a modern black paint M3 without the battery and all the electronics just a 60mp sensor please.

Ask the guy who made the Youtube clip where he got his M10D, it seems it can do anything, maybe even operate without a battery.

 

[mdemeyer]

I’ve got it... a faux film advance lever the turns a small generator and charges a capacitor with enough power for one exposure...

😃

[mmradman]

8 hours ago, mdemeyer said:

I’ve got it... a faux film advance lever the turns a small generator and charges a capacitor with enough power for one exposure...

😃

Remember motor winders on Film cameras? 

As per your suggestion but with some tweaks, single stroke advance lever would not be enough but a a winder bolted to the bottom of the camera could work and provide required power by spinning small generator inside the M body.  You will need batteries for your winder which could be charged via power grid suppling your domestic socket...hang on a minute is this not getting out of hand 🙃

[stefanusj]

i think M10DM is a wayyy better idea than Q2M.

[a.noctilux]

4 hours ago, stefanusj said:

i think M10DM is a wayyy better idea than Q2M.

Better idea may not sell well ...

Offering what customers wait for may be much better idea for business point.

[stefanusj]

On 5/21/2021 at 6:08 PM, a.noctilux said:

Better idea may not sell well ...

Offering what customers wait for may be much better idea for business point.

for me, what "customers wait for" and a "better idea" has to be alligned for an M.  Q is always be a gateway to Leica world, so the market is filled with new users from other brands or a real new users to photography. M is mostly for an existing Leica users, or a simple photographer that needs only joys in taking a photos (without any gimmick). I bought M10D, and really hate the gimmick thumbs up, and so in the end hate using it.