gteague Posted April 30, 2021 Share #1 Posted April 30, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) i had pre-ordered this about a month ago and i'm really glad i did because i paid only about 10% of the release price. i can't give any review of it since i just downloaded it but thought others here might have been waiting on it or want to know about it. i also took advantage of a huge bundle discount and got a lot of leica materials from his site and although i find a lot of useful material therein, as a presenter, he's a very mixed bag or maybe an 'acquired taste'. but his reviews of the cl and q2 are just brilliant and in truth you might learn as much from the reviews as from the books and videos. /guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ianforber Posted April 30, 2021 Share #2 Posted April 30, 2021 Finally! I preordered last August at a similarly discounted price (surely no one buys at the over-inflated prices nominally charged for his stuff?!). I’ve been waiting patiently ever since. Off to download now… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted April 30, 2021 Share #3 Posted April 30, 2021 A $298 ebook? I'm curious what you get for your money, but not nearly curious enough to pay the $148 'intro price'. 10% of that sounds about right for an ebook. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted April 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Anbaric said: A $298 ebook? I'm curious what you get for your money, but not nearly curious enough to pay the $148 'intro price'. 10% of that sounds about right for an ebook. indeed, i think i paid $14 for it. and i knew it was a pre-order, but the email i got indicated the link was live so i emailed their support guy (a very nice canadian chap, but then they all are, right? ) and as an apology for the confusion he gave me an ebook of my choice and i think i got 'the magic of light'. so i made out on the deal very nicely. /guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanC Posted April 30, 2021 Share #5 Posted April 30, 2021 If you saw his video review, you know just about everything Overgaard has to say about the Q2. In short, "47 megapixels." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share #6 Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, AllanC said: If you saw his video review, you know just about everything Overgaard has to say about the Q2. In short, "47 megapixels." it was lame, but only because video can only cover a tiny fraction of the text review. in this case a picture wasn't worth 10 words, much less 1000! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymz Posted May 1, 2021 Share #7 Posted May 1, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I’m sorry but this guy is so overrated and his publications are ridiculously over priced. Learning the Q2 is fun and so many average users offer much more than some self proclaimed guru. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vedivv Posted May 1, 2021 Share #8 Posted May 1, 2021 I have read some of Mr. Overgaard's writing and they are pretty informative. I have to say the pricing strategy on his website is somewhat confusing, like walking into an electronic store that had "storing closing sale" sign year after year. I saw the "on sale" price last year, and thought it was a little sketchy and did not order it. Would have bought it if it was sold on Amazon at a reasonable price range (perhaps $20~40 like many other camera guide books). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted May 1, 2021 Share #9 Posted May 1, 2021 I am a bit confused: Do you talk about Thorsten Overgaard or Thorsten von Overgaard? The one with VON is very expensive. Makes sense 😑 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted May 1, 2021 Share #10 Posted May 1, 2021 I think Mr von Overgaard has rather cleverly realised that the Leica aura resets our expectations about pricing. A Pentax user wouldn't pay $200 for a third party lens hood from China when they can get one for $15 on ebay. But his blog has some useful information about his favourite cameras presented in an engaging style, if you can get past the $4000 leather products and the deeply silly 5G Protection Card. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share #11 Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) i have to admit i scoffed the hardest when i encountered his site and saw the obscene, nosebleed prices. but his written reviews of the cameras i owned were very incisive and detailed and i usually could discover several things about the camera model i didn't know even after multiple readings of all other reviews and documentation. i concluded that i didn't need anything he sold. until i kept coming back to the camera strap. by then i'd spent a few hundred dollars trying to find one which didn't suck. my peak system would have worked and indeed i use it on my s1 and cl, but it looked ugly on the q2. so, after several months of vacillation i ordered his yosimine strap in the extra cost 145cm length--peak being the only other strap i'd found which could expand to that length. and i have to say that it's very nearly worth what i paid--it's perfectly designed for the purpose and ultra-high quality. and i discovered the store support guy, a canadian, is super-nice and gave me a free ebook when my pre-order for the q2 book was delayed. given all this, when they reduced the price of about $6-8k of their materials in a bundle for $99 i bit the hook thinking i surely could get $99 worth of value from it. i finished the q2 'masterclass' video yesterday and it was very disappointing--at least for someone who has been shooting for 57 years now. i think it's for rich people who don't have time or inclination to read and can't find their way to forums like this one. basically he just shows you how he sets up the camera for himself, then shows you how he shoots street photos (worthless), and finally how he shoots a scene using white balance. he went to a little park with a white bench and first thing he did was clean the bench meaning i would never ever take photo advice from someone willing to alter a scene--that's the opposite of my jam. oh, i did get some amusement from the fact he kept referring to the /A/ on the shutter speed dial as aperture priority mode. if we accept that, what does the /A/ on the aperture dial mean? /guy Edited May 1, 2021 by gteague Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted May 1, 2021 Share #12 Posted May 1, 2021 2 hours ago, gteague said: i have to admit i scoffed the hardest when i encountered his site and saw the obscene, nosebleed prices. but his written reviews of the cameras i owned were very incisive and detailed and i usually could discover several things about the camera model i didn't know even after multiple readings of all other reviews and documentation. i concluded that i didn't need anything he sold. until i kept coming back to the camera strap. by then i'd spent a few hundred dollars trying to find one which didn't suck. my peak system would have worked and indeed i use it on my s1 and cl, but it looked ugly on the q2. so, after several months of vacillation i ordered his yosimine strap in the extra cost 145cm length--peak being the only other strap i'd found which could expand to that length. and i have to say that it's very nearly worth what i paid--it's perfectly designed for the purpose and ultra-high quality. and i discovered the store support guy, a canadian, is super-nice and gave me a free ebook when my pre-order for the q2 book was delayed. given all this, when they reduced the price of about $6-8k of their materials in a bundle for $99 i bit the hook thinking i surely could get $99 worth of value from it. i finished the q2 'masterclass' video yesterday and it was very disappointing--at least for someone who has been shooting for 57 years now. i think it's for rich people who don't have time or inclination to read and can't find their way to forums like this one. basically he just shows you how he sets up the camera for himself, then shows you how he shoots street photos (worthless), and finally how he shoots a scene using white balance. he went to a little park with a white bench and first thing he did was clean the bench meaning i would never ever take photo advice from someone willing to alter a scene--that's the opposite of my jam. oh, i did get some amusement from the fact he kept referring to the /A/ on the shutter speed dial as aperture priority mode. if we accept that, what does the /A/ on the aperture dial mean? /guy /A/ on the aperture dial means Shutter Priority Mode. /A/ on aperture and shutter dial means Program Mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share #13 Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, SrMi said: /A/ on the aperture dial means Shutter Priority Mode. /A/ on aperture and shutter dial means Program Mode. either they both mean 'automatic' or it makes no sense whatsoever. or alternate. or something equivalent in german. /guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted May 1, 2021 Share #14 Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, gteague said: either they both mean 'automatic' or it makes no sense whatsoever. or alternate. or something equivalent in german. /guy I see. Automatic for aperture equals Shutter Priority Mode, automatic for shutter speed equals Aperture Priority Mode. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted May 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, SrMi said: I see. Automatic for aperture equals Shutter Priority Mode, automatic for shutter speed equals Aperture Priority Mode. and both in /A/ mean program mode. it's an elegant way to provide PASM without a control dial. /guy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelu2010 Posted September 9, 2021 Share #16 Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) On 5/1/2021 at 9:10 PM, gteague said: either they both mean 'automatic' or it makes no sense whatsoever. or alternate. or something equivalent in german. /guy On 5/1/2021 at 10:26 PM, gteague said: and both in /A/ mean program mode. it's an elegant way to provide PASM without a control dial. /guy that's what it is. elegant .... I love it that way. For me every camera could work this way. Edited September 9, 2021 by Pelu2010 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted September 9, 2021 Share #17 Posted September 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Pelu2010 said: that's what it is. elegant .... I love it that way. For me every camera could work this way. Elegant, and how my Fuji works, but it still doesn't do away with the need of a dial for me because shiftable program is so useful, and the dial controls that (I'd rather just use aperture or shutter priority than a non-shiftable program mode). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelu2010 Posted September 10, 2021 Share #18 Posted September 10, 2021 Hey Anbaric, can you explain what you mean. If I put the lens in A and the shutter in A then I can shift them with the right wheel. If only one of them is activated, I also can shift only one parameter. And if I activate exposure compensation, then even more. What more can you shift? The only thing I needed was the compensation of the exposure, when using auto ISO. I am a bit confused on what more you can shift with a dedicated dial to execute the modes. Do I miss something? thnaxs Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted October 2, 2021 Share #19 Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) On 9/10/2021 at 6:37 AM, Pelu2010 said: Hey Anbaric, can you explain what you mean. If I put the lens in A and the shutter in A then I can shift them with the right wheel. If only one of them is activated, I also can shift only one parameter. And if I activate exposure compensation, then even more. What more can you shift? The only thing I needed was the compensation of the exposure, when using auto ISO. I am a bit confused on what more you can shift with a dedicated dial to execute the modes. Do I miss something? thnaxs Peter Edit: Reading your post again, I think I am just saying 'dial' where you say 'wheel' and you already know how shiftable program works! I don't mean a mode dial, but what Nikon calls a 'command dial', a wheel you spin to change various parameters. But I've left my explanation below anyway. Shiftable program gives you more control when you are in full program mode, with both aperture and shutter speed set to A. The thing that shifts is the balance between aperture and shutter speed. Say you go to program mode and the camera selects 1/250 at f/8. That's only a single combination of shutter speed and aperture, but other combinations, like 1/500 at f/5.6, or 1/1000 at f/4, would also give you a correct exposure and you might prefer to use one of them. You could, of course, switch back to manual or one of the semi-automatic modes to access these alternative combinations, but with shiftable program you don't have to. You just spin the control wheel one way to bias the program in favour of faster shutter speeds and larger apertures, or the other way to get slower shutter speeds and smaller apertures. This lets you cycle through every valid combination of shutter speed and aperture that gives an equivalent exposure very rapidly, and unlike the semi-auto modes you can't select, say, an aperture that's so wide you run out of shutter speeds and overexpose. This may sound more complicated than it actually is - it's very natural once you've tried it. Edited October 2, 2021 by Anbaric 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivi1969 Posted October 2, 2021 Share #20 Posted October 2, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 5:52 PM, Anbaric said: A $298 ebook? I'm curious what you get for your money, but not nearly curious enough to pay the $148 'intro price'. 10% of that sounds about right for an ebook. No surprises here, when he charged 250 Euros for 10 dollar lens hoods that never arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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