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Hi,

This is my first post and I´m starting with a question that puzzles me. Reaserching for lens possibilities, just read that "...On the CL, LEICA suggests shooting at f/2.0 or smaller since the CL has a puny rangefinder with limited precision." This is in an article about the Summilux 50mm f1.4...

Is this for real? What`s your view on this subject? Anyone is/as used the Summilux on the CL?

 

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Baloney as you will see when looking through the viewfinder. Not only is it one of the better EVFs on the market, it offers magnification and focus peaking for precise manual focus . Welcome to the Forum. :)

However the remark is more or less valid for the CL of the 1970-ies... :lol::lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leica_CL

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lol! i suspect you got sidetracked off to a film cl review. many reviewers (evidently m snobs!) claimed that the shorter distance between the rangefinder windows meant that you should limit the focal length compared to an m camera. i have horrible eyes and to my delight i have no such problems shooting wide open with a 50mm summicron or my 75mm f2.4 (sumi-something) using my film cl. 

obviously, the digital cl has auto focus and peaking, both of which work superbly. i don't think the concept of rangefinder even ever comes into play on an autofocus camera. 

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Agree -Leica's reservations were overly cautions, but then they tend to err on that side, like with the APO-Telyt 135 on the M8. They even refused to code it. Lovely lens - I liked using the combo.

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11 hours ago, gteague said:

i suspect you got sidetracked off to a film cl review. many reviewers (evidently m snobs!) claimed that the shorter distance between the rangefinder windows meant that you should limit the focal length compared to an m camera.

Yes it was possibly a CL film issue due to the short base length of its rangefinder, although i'm not sure there are actual problems with 50/1.4 lenses. Nothing to do with the current digital CL which has no rangefinder at all anyway. The digital CL works perfectly with my 50/1.4 asph and pre-asph M lenses.

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16 hours ago, balzani_shots said:

Hi,

This is my first post and I´m starting with a question that puzzles me. Reaserching for lens possibilities, just read that "...On the CL, LEICA suggests shooting at f/2.0 or smaller since the CL has a puny rangefinder with limited precision." This is in an article about the Summilux 50mm f1.4...

Is this for real? What`s your view on this subject? Anyone is/as used the Summilux on the CL?

 

Welcome, and as above, this remark was aimed at much earlier film CL, you will find the 50mm Summilux works beautifully on the digital APS-C CL, many users and lots of examples to be seen in the image thread.  Enjoy your new camera.

 

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Welcome to the club, please remember also that the digital CL has a 1.5x crop factor (unlike the film version) this will mean that your 50mm summilux will give you a FOV of a 75mm f2

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Any 50mm lens gives a 75mm FoV on APS-C but an f/1.4 lens remains an f/1.4 lens fortunately. Think of the Summilux 50/1.4 asph as a compact Summilux 75/1.4 with asph capabilities i.e. more acutance but also less softness than the original 75/1.4 especially at f/1.4. Or a Summicron 75/2 apo with one more stop sort of. DoF is another story.

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I'm also a newcomer to the CL. I think it would have saved search engine confusion if it was called the CL-D just as Olympus called their cameras OM-D but no matter. Only got the 18-56mm plus M and LTM lenses. The camera is largely an update for my M8 as I confess to finding focussing harder as years go by. 

So far, so good. Menus are refreshingly simple compared with my Sonys and the addition of a 'Thumbie' https://lavidaleica.com/content/m8m9-thumbie makes all the difference to the handling just as it did on the M8. Crop factor is much the same as the M8 and size similar to Sony A6500.

Waiting now for an M to L adaptor, hope it's not stuck on a container ship in the Suez canal. 

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I should say that my friend and dweller on this forum, dkCambridgeshire, has kindly lent me his Leica M to TL adaptor so that I can try my M lenses on the CL. All works very well but I think the dumb adaptor that I have ordered won't have quite the same magnification facility. We'll see.

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb mike_j:

I should say that my friend and dweller on this forum, dkCambridgeshire, has kindly lent me his Leica M to TL adaptor so that I can try my M lenses on the CL. All works very well but I think the dumb adaptor that I have ordered won't have quite the same magnification facility. We'll see.

The dumb adapters work OK and are the same as the Leica, only dumber. I have a Leica adapter and a dumb adapter, since I have older lenses with no markings they work the same, except I can change focus magnification with my left wheel with the Leica adapter. You haveto use the up arrow with the dumb adapter.

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3 minutes ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

The dumb adapters work OK and are the same as the Leica, only dumber. I have a Leica adapter and a dumb adapter, since I have older lenses with no markings they work the same, except I can change focus magnification with my left wheel with the Leica adapter.

Right wheel here. No problem either.

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On 3/23/2021 at 4:17 PM, balzani_shots said:

Hi,

This is my first post and I´m starting with a question that puzzles me. Reaserching for lens possibilities, just read that "...On the CL, LEICA suggests shooting at f/2.0 or smaller since the CL has a puny rangefinder with limited precision." This is in an article about the Summilux 50mm f1.4...

Is this for real? What`s your view on this subject? Anyone is/as used the Summilux on the CL?

 

If you accept the typical forum and article comments as factual, then you’d never purchase anything, and you’d miss out on all the fun. Enjoy your camera, it’s a wonderful tool. 

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