pippy Posted March 21, 2021 Share #41 Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Dennis said: ...Once I get the proper alcohol, I'll start to take the paint off some ISO and SS numbers, oh yeah! I can't wait.... IMX a few pints of Krug is usually sufficient to get me in the mood to do interesting stuff so I'd say hang the expense and Go For It! Philip. Edited March 21, 2021 by pippy 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dennis Posted March 22, 2021 Share #42 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, pippy said: IMX a few pints of Krug is usually sufficient to get me in the mood to do interesting stuff so I'd say hang the expense and Go For It! Philip. Once done, I'll post a snapshot of my own limited edition M10, of course. I really believe personal but proper customization of your camera can help you take better photos. I know I'm faster with my own camera that a brand new one. I use all manual settings, even WB. Faster for me is a better chance to catch a moment or just do it better. Resulting in a more pleasant story to be told. Everything is connected! Sorry for the off topic 🙏 Edited March 22, 2021 by Dennis added apologies 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted March 22, 2021 Share #43 Posted March 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Stephen.s1 said: No one has mentioned that once you buy a new lens It's lost roughly 20% (if you're lucky) of it's retail price. See what a dealer will offer you for your "investment". You just have to wait for a couple of the inevitable Leica price increases and you'll cover the 20% loss in no time 😉 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted March 22, 2021 Share #44 Posted March 22, 2021 Why bother with values ? If the purpose is to USE the lenses, I can't see why bother with price/value/etc. If the purpose is to invest, better find other types of investment... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 22, 2021 Share #45 Posted March 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Why bother with values ? Because most people envision reselling their gear soon or late and they don't want to lose money too much i guess . 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maitoparta Posted March 22, 2021 Share #46 Posted March 22, 2021 It depend on how you value them. Mine have kept their value. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedro Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share #47 Posted March 22, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 minutes ago, lct said: Because most people envision reselling their gear soon or late and they don't want to lose money too much i guess . where "most" is the key word, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 22, 2021 Share #48 Posted March 22, 2021 I bought a vintage guitar that's turned into a "good" investment. By good I mean its value has increased a fraction of the amount I could have realized if I put the money in stock market index fund, but it has increased. Collectibles as part of an estate plan is for the very wealthy. A $5,000 investment in collector grade equipment today would have to equal about $6,000 in five years at 4%. Might happen but I doubt it. I consider this expensive photography hobby as a breakeven proposition. Even if make some trades and loose a few hundred dollars its not the end of the world. On the other hand I'd like an M10-P or R but thinking about trading my M-P and getting 1/3rd of the price I paid pains me since it't still fully functional and as reliable as the day I bought it new. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 22, 2021 Share #49 Posted March 22, 2021 59 minutes ago, Fedro said: where "most" is the key word, Indeed the last time i sold a Leica lens i was still a student 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 22, 2021 Share #50 Posted March 22, 2021 Lo and behold, I just got an email from tamarkin saying leica is raising prices 2 to 5%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted March 22, 2021 Share #51 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, RayD28 said: Lo and behold, I just got an email from tamarkin saying leica is raising prices 2 to 5%. Yeah, it was discussed on the forum last week: Edited March 22, 2021 by logan2z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted March 22, 2021 Share #52 Posted March 22, 2021 52 minutes ago, lct said: Indeed the last time i sold a Leica lens i was still a student In the 40+ years I've been using M-Leicas I've never once sold a lens but, as chance would have it, I am actually considering to do such a thing now. I find myself with a pair of 90mm lenses only one of which ever gets used. My reasoning is that I could sell both of my existing lenses and replace them with what is (in some attractive respects) a 'better performing' lens. As both lenses were bought for good prices I'd even come out on top financially. The theory seems sound....... Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 22, 2021 Share #53 Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, logan2z said: Yeah, it was discussed on the forum last week: That’s me, Logan. Day late and a dollar short. In this case a week late. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted March 22, 2021 Share #54 Posted March 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, RayD28 said: That’s me, Logan. Day late and a dollar short. In this case a week late. In your defense, Tamarkin sent out their email way late. I just received it yesterday too 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted March 22, 2021 Share #55 Posted March 22, 2021 Even though I currently do not plan selling my Leica equipment, maybe I should periodically take a look at current prices of my gear. Should for instance my Summilux serial number turn out to be one of a 2 Million € super super rare super limited edition - I would not hesitate replacing the lens with a „normal“ Summilux...😀😀🤑 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted March 22, 2021 Share #56 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Robert Blanko said: Even though I currently do not plan selling my Leica equipment, maybe I should periodically take a look at current prices of my gear. Should for instance my Summilux serial number turn out to be one of a 2 Million € super super rare super limited edition - I would not hesitate replacing the lens with a „normal“ Summilux...😀😀🤑 I bet your Summilux with it's unique serial number is therefore unique (...only one of it's kind ! ) 😉 ...as all other Leica lens minus some "*" (duplicate serial number), see here for * Edited March 22, 2021 by a.noctilux 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted March 24, 2021 Share #57 Posted March 24, 2021 Leica is a luxury product. Like all such products it carries a 20-30% price premium when new. Buy it second hand (1-2 years old) and you will save this premium. Then use it and keep it well. When you sell it, you will at least recover what you paid for, with a minimal loss. Sometimes, you might even make a profit, as the price of a similar new product moves up in price. Just keep checking on resale and new prices to make judgement calls. This is true for all mechanical products like lenses. For electronics products like cameras, there will be a point at which the item may have parts that cannot be replaced. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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