romanus53 Posted August 12, 2023 Share #921 Posted August 12, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) This FIKUS-copy [even better made than the original one] was offered by A.O. Roth to their customers - in both versions for either Leica or Contax. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Had the Leica-version for a long time but didn't know of the Contax-version until I saw it, massive brass and chrome, looks pretty good on a Contax II 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Had the Leica-version for a long time but didn't know of the Contax-version until I saw it, massive brass and chrome, looks pretty good on a Contax II ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4833900'>More sharing options...
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Matlock Posted August 12, 2023 Share #922 Posted August 12, 2023 On 7/26/2023 at 3:14 PM, Pyrogallol said: Just arrived, a Russar 20mm f5.6 Leica screw lens. has a good reputation. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Here is mine mounted on my If, the viewfinder is wonderful but rather ugly (only a mother could love it) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted August 12, 2023 Share #923 Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Matlock said: Here is mine mounted on my If, the viewfinder is wonderful but rather ugly (only a mother could love it) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Test print (darkroom) from my Russar wide open at f5.6 look sharp. Leica 2f. I used a Leica 21mm finder. The lens rear fits so close to the film plane that the spacing between the negatives has disappeared and the negatives touch each other. Edited August 12, 2023 by Pyrogallol 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted August 12, 2023 Share #924 Posted August 12, 2023 I might have shown my lovely Agfa Isolate III before, but not with an image taken with it John Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4834178'>More sharing options...
jpattison Posted August 13, 2023 Share #925 Posted August 13, 2023 18 hours ago, jpattison said: Sorry, Auto spellchecker took over It is, of course an Agfa Isolette III. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted August 13, 2023 Share #926 Posted August 13, 2023 Been busy recently doing various things, including getting ready to do a presentation in a 135 year old preserved darkroom next Tuesday. One of the items they have there is this 1880s/90s Lancaster Instantograph Quarter Plate camera with a Thornton Pickard Time and Instant shutter and a Dallmeyer Rapid Rectilinear lens for 3 1/4 x 3 1/4 inch positive plates for projection with a Magic Lantern. Back in the 1890s, the darkroom owner scratched the US/UK aperture scale on the lens beside the original Dallmeyer aperture scale. For the record 25 on the Dallmeyer scale = f15.81 and 50 is f22.36. I hope people here can see the f16 scratched near 25 on the Dallmeyer scale. I have also enclosed, for reference, a chart showing the various aperture scales which were around at that time. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I have images which were taken with this set up which I will post at a later time. I also have the photographer's darkroom note books from the period 1888 to c 1920 which record that he used f16 for all copying and reproduction work. I will post much more about this when I get my talk next Tuesday out of the way. There are other interesting things in the darkroom including a possible 'solar camera' set up, which includes a window with a condenser lens embedded into it. A friend who is an eminent professor of optics is coming on Tuesday to give me his opinion on this. See illustrations below which show how this would work for printing. Also shown is the window with a condenser lens, which fits the darkroom window. William 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I have images which were taken with this set up which I will post at a later time. I also have the photographer's darkroom note books from the period 1888 to c 1920 which record that he used f16 for all copying and reproduction work. I will post much more about this when I get my talk next Tuesday out of the way. There are other interesting things in the darkroom including a possible 'solar camera' set up, which includes a window with a condenser lens embedded into it. A friend who is an eminent professor of optics is coming on Tuesday to give me his opinion on this. See illustrations below which show how this would work for printing. Also shown is the window with a condenser lens, which fits the darkroom window. William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4834686'>More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 13, 2023 Share #927 Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Interesting @willeica - I have a similar lens - Dallmeyer Rapid Rectilinear, but marked "6x5" and "No 51362". It has an aperture scale 7.5 to 100, with 'normal' apertures 8 to 31 marked on the other side of the slot in marker pen. It came with my Gandolfi 4x5 (and is shown at minuscule size in my avatar). Somebody has carved (too deep to say scratched) "Ealing School of Photography" on the rear standard. I think this was a purely post-war institution (someone may correct me), so I suspect the Gandolfi and lens had a much longer history. I have used the Gandolfi quite a bit, but never the lens (I use other lenses with their own shutters). I'm curious - where is the darkroom you will be giving the talk on? I visited the WW Winter studio in Derby a few months ago, which must have had a similar history from C19-C21. Edit. I've just seen - Strokestown Park House Edited August 13, 2023 by LocalHero1953 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 13, 2023 Share #928 Posted August 13, 2023 Just tried to search the files in the Dallmeyer Archive for that serial number. Annoyingly it looks like the relevant pages have been hijacked by malware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 13, 2023 Share #929 Posted August 13, 2023 My Dallmeyer, for comparison. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4834741'>More sharing options...
willeica Posted August 13, 2023 Share #930 Posted August 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: Just tried to search the files in the Dallmeyer Archive for that serial number. Annoyingly it looks like the relevant pages have been hijacked by malware. Paul, I will post some pages from the D'Agostini and Rose book tomorrow which may assist in tracing your lens. 6x5 was often a size for portraits. There are tables in the book which show a level of coverage for landscapes and a different smaller one for portraits or groups using the same lens. I have no hesitation in posting pictures from that book here as the authors used a photo of mine without my permission. I am quoted in the Grubb section of the book as is our friend 'pgk'. Interestingly, a Dallmeyer lens with a diaphragm was an optional extra that one could pay for at one stage. There are tables in the book setting out the various options available. Yes, my talk is in Strokestown House on Tuesday. There are many fascinating things there to discuss. I will do the talk again for PCCGB with David Gardner, John Marriage and John Wade and others in attendance. That should appear later on YouTube. https://strokestownpark.ie/event/william-fagan-talk-and-tour/ William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 13, 2023 Share #931 Posted August 13, 2023 1 minute ago, willeica said: Paul, I will post some pages from the D'Agostini and Rose book tomorrow which may assist in tracing your lens. 6x5 was often a size for portraits. There are tables in the book which show a level of coverage for landscapes and a different smaller one for portraits or groups using the same lens. I have no hesitation in posting pictures from that book here as the authors used a photo of mine without my permission. I am quoted in the Grubb section of the book as is our friend 'pgk'. Interestingly, a Dallmeyer lens with a diaphragm was an optional extra that one could pay for at one stage. There are tables in the book setting out the various options available. Thank you, William - I look forward to it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted August 13, 2023 Share #932 Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, LocalHero1953 said: Thank you, William - I look forward to it! I have had an exchange with Ivan Rose tonight about Dallmeyer lenses and I will include that as well tomorrow. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted August 14, 2023 Share #933 Posted August 14, 2023 14 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: Thank you, William - I look forward to it! Here you are, Paul. I have put the pages in the same order as in the book. However the first one shows the catalogue for 1890 and the second one shows the catalogue for 1870. There are many options as regards size and specification etc. Note that the group /portrait coverage can be increased by stopping down for landscapes. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The item I found in the Strokestown Darkroom is the same type as the last one illustrated here, but much smaller. This is what Ivan Rose who co-authored the book told me about it last night. "The Dallmeyer RR, in that size it was intended for making magic lantern slides. That is the old Dallmeyer iris scale which can be confusing. Dallmeyer scale 25 is very close to f/16 (not to be confused with the US 'f' scale which is different again). This size is not listed in the catalogue for 1881 or 1896, the records have batches for 1883 starting No. 31733, 1884 starting No. 33840 and 1885 no. 35888, then in 1886 it seems to become the 4.25x3.25 inch size. So with that engraving it must have been a short lived size." Have fun finding your one here. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The item I found in the Strokestown Darkroom is the same type as the last one illustrated here, but much smaller. This is what Ivan Rose who co-authored the book told me about it last night. "The Dallmeyer RR, in that size it was intended for making magic lantern slides. That is the old Dallmeyer iris scale which can be confusing. Dallmeyer scale 25 is very close to f/16 (not to be confused with the US 'f' scale which is different again). This size is not listed in the catalogue for 1881 or 1896, the records have batches for 1883 starting No. 31733, 1884 starting No. 33840 and 1885 no. 35888, then in 1886 it seems to become the 4.25x3.25 inch size. So with that engraving it must have been a short lived size." Have fun finding your one here. William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4834991'>More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 14, 2023 Share #934 Posted August 14, 2023 Thanks, William - it looks most like the one in your third picture, with the 7.5-100 scale, though mine is engraved 6x5, and has a short hood (as shown in my photo). But this gives a good idea of the date at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted August 14, 2023 Share #935 Posted August 14, 2023 6 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: Thanks, William - it looks most like the one in your third picture, with the 7.5-100 scale, though mine is engraved 6x5, and has a short hood (as shown in my photo). But this gives a good idea of the date at least. Paul, the book can be regarded as a standard text. The Dallmeyer section runs to about 97 pages. I mainly bought the book for the Grubb section and I am mentioned a few times in the book. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted September 20, 2023 Share #936 Posted September 20, 2023 Old Trusty taken with a newly acquired 1890s 5.31" Taylor Taylor & Hobson MAR (Medium Angle Rectilinear) Lens wide open (~f/11?). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4861153'>More sharing options...
pgk Posted September 20, 2023 Share #937 Posted September 20, 2023 And another on the TTH MAR: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4861157'>More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted September 20, 2023 Share #938 Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, pgk said: And another on the TTH MAR: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What camera did you use the lens on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted September 20, 2023 Share #939 Posted September 20, 2023 A Sony A7II (R I think). Basically because the lens fits on an M bellows effectively clamped between the lens holder and Elmar Hood (this technique holds many lenses pretty well), and I can fit the M bellows onto the Sony with a Metabones adapter. Focus is over a wide range from infinity to closer than shown; its similar to using a 135mm with close focus! Focus is via focus magnification which works well enough. I should have said that the lens is an early TTH and takes Waterhouse stops but I don't have any made up as yet. Performance is pretty good with just some chroma evident around oof edges but this cleans up ok in Photoshop. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 20, 2023 Share #940 Posted September 20, 2023 Paul, do you make the Waterhouse stops from thin aluminium or brass shim stock? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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