pedaes Posted July 17, 2021 Share #241 Posted July 17, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 16 minutes ago, 6bit said: Has anyone compared this Lens against the CV Nokton 1.2/50mm? Would love to know how you think each renders. See #223! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Hi pedaes, Take a look here The 50mm f/1,2 Noctilux Image Thread. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ecar Posted July 18, 2021 Share #242 Posted July 18, 2021 On the M9P, wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4240168'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 18, 2021 Share #243 Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, 6bit said: Has anyone compared this Lens against the CV Nokton 1.2/50mm? Would love to know how you think each renders. Yes. In a nutshell: the Noctilux is a re-issue of an old design, the CV is a modern design. They render quite differently. Below are a couple of quick kitchen snapshots on the M10P ASC. Handheld, hence the slight differences in framing. Same WB, default LR conversion. First the Noctilux, then the CV. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 18, 2021 by Ecar 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4240171'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 18, 2021 Share #244 Posted July 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Steven said: Is there a reason why you shoot your nocti on the M9 instead of your ASC? Yes. I prefer the rendering of this lens on the CCD (M9P or M9M). Also, I did a couple of very unscientific tests when I received the lens and saw more CA (eg, on the outline of tree branches against the sky) on the ASC compared to the M9. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookbook Posted July 18, 2021 Share #245 Posted July 18, 2021 ... it doesn't really make much sense to use a bad lens a second time. The pictures no better because of it!!! : ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted July 18, 2021 Share #246 Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ecar said: Yes. In a nutshell: the Noctilux is a re-issue of an old design, the CV is a modern design. They render quite differently. Below are a couple of quick kitchen snapshots on the M10P ASC. Handheld, hence the slight differences in framing. Same WB, default LR conversion. First the Noctilux, then the CV. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thank you. I don’t have the reissued Nocti, I have thought about getting it, but I like the CV 1.5/50mm better than the 1.2/50mm. After seeing your and other photos above, I believe I like the reissued Nocti better than the 1.2/50mm. The Leica may be a bit softer, but definitely holds the contrast better. I also like the personality. Edited July 18, 2021 by 6bit Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 18, 2021 Share #247 Posted July 18, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, 6bit said: I like the CV 1.5/50mm better than the 1.2/50mm. Me too. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted July 19, 2021 Share #248 Posted July 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Ecar said: Me too. Do you like the CV 1.5/50mm more than the reissued Noctilux? I think I like the CV better. Would need to shoot for a definitive answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 19, 2021 Share #249 Posted July 19, 2021 6 hours ago, 6bit said: Do you like the CV 1.5/50mm more than the reissued Noctilux? I think I like the CV better. Would need to shoot for a definitive answer. Yes, nothing beats trying them yourself. I guess my curt statement requires a bit more background. Regarding the CV 50/1.5, I'm assuming we are both talking about the latest version (VM v2). Essentially, I'm saying that, for a modern design, I prefer its results to those of the CV 50/1.2, at least up to f/4-f/5.6, where I don't see much difference in practical use. And the 50/1.5 is smaller, better-looking (I have the nickel variant) and with more pleasing haptics. In a sense, the 50/1.2 feels a bit half-baked: no obvious flaws, but not as clean and polished as one would expect from a modern lens. I am obviously exaggerating to get my point across: the 50/1.2 IS an excellent lens (and f/1.2 is nice to have), just not one that gets me overly excited. As always, the above is JMHO, YMMV, etc. and, in case you haven't seen them, Flavio (Harpomatic on this forum) has made very thorough reviews of both lenses. Regarding the Noctilux 50/1.2 vs. the CV 50/1.5 v2, they don't play the same game: one aims to replicate a design that's over half a century old, flaws and all, while the other is a modern design that effectively offers an alternative to the current Summilux 50/1.4 and belongs to a "Vintage Line" only in name and looks. I use them in different circumstances, for different results. I enjoy the variety of looks that I get from my lenses. And although I appreciate it's a very important factor when buying lenses, I deliberately take money out of the equation when evaluating their rendering. Incidentally, if you are looking for a bit more "character" and are not allergic to its "spiky" aperture ring, the much maligned CV 50/1.5 VM v1 is also an interesting lens. The chrome variant in (heavier) brass is a beauty and a close (cosmetic) replica of the original LTM Nokton from the 1950's. Now, in order not to further derail this thread, here's a picture from the Noctilux 50/1.2 ASPH. on the M10P ASC, wide open @ MFD: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4240813'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 29, 2021 Share #250 Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) On the M9P, wide open @ MFD, slight crop Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 29, 2021 by Ecar 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4247266'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted August 12, 2021 Share #251 Posted August 12, 2021 On the M9P, wide open, converted to B&W Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4255491'>More sharing options...
glogulus Posted August 21, 2021 Share #252 Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) Could someone explain why the out of focus areas in the background of some of the pictures from the 50/1.2 wide open seem like its moving in a circular fashion? Really strange! When I look at the posts starting here none of other 50mm lenses seem to do this. Edited August 21, 2021 by glogulus missed a word 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo-Sixten Posted August 25, 2021 Share #253 Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) Flisan, our cottage goat. M10M, Noctilux 1.2 v.2 @ 1.2. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 25, 2021 by Bo-Sixten 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4263082'>More sharing options...
adan Posted August 25, 2021 Share #254 Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) On 8/20/2021 at 6:29 PM, glogulus said: Could someone explain why the out of focus areas in the background of some of the pictures from the 50/1.2 wide open seem like its moving in a circular fashion? Really strange! This occurs when the metal barrel or tube of a lens crops the circular aperture into a cat's-eye shape near the edges/corners of the picture - () - at or near wide open. It is called "mechanical vignetting," and can also happen with too long a lens hood, or too many filters used at once. But it often occurs strictly due to the design of the lens itself. The "cat's-eyes" always have their shortest diameter pointed towards the center of the image, and as they run around the center of the image, this creates a "directionality" to successive or neighboring blur circles, that also seems to go round and round in the background. As well, of course, as darkening the corners (less light gets through a cat's-eye opening than through a fully circular opening). https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/59185661 Other lens aberrations may exaggerate the effect. Edited August 25, 2021 by adan 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share #255 Posted August 31, 2021 Late Summer Day Noctilux wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4267028'>More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share #256 Posted September 22, 2021 M10-R, Noctilux at f/1,2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4279643'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted October 18, 2021 Share #257 Posted October 18, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Noctilux 1.2 on M9-P Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Noctilux 1.2 on M9-P ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4295276'>More sharing options...
Yarosuav Posted October 18, 2021 Share #258 Posted October 18, 2021 Repost from another thread. On M10-R. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318586-the-50mm-f12-noctilux-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4295317'>More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share #259 Posted October 20, 2021 @Steven which camera ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share #260 Posted October 20, 2021 vor 1 Minute schrieb Steven: Tricky question. I would say SL2-S. Ah, digital ... you only need to check the metadata 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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