ok- boring I know but sell m240 buy m10?

[analog-digital]

Advertisement (gone after registration)

vor 1 Stunde schrieb Ko.Fe.:

You can't correct something which not exist.

 

If nothing is there, you cannot say that "your E-PL1 has much better colors than your M-E 220"

Edited November 22, 2020 by analog-digital

[tobey bilek]

M10 is grand at 8000 iso.  Pics close if not same as M9.  

[Herr Barnack]

Quote

ok- boring I know but sell m240 buy m10?

I am deliberating on the same decision. 

My M-P 240 Safari kit has been a good camera and with it I have made some beautiful images (according to others, not me blowing my own horn).  That said, IMHO the M-P 240's Achilles heel is its low maximum ISO.  With a maximum ISO of 6400, I have come to think of ISO 800 as being about the highest ISO that is consistently usable for print making, although there is some leeway with that, depending on subject matter. 

A solution would be to shoot using a monopod or tripod, and I use both when the need arises.   The thing with tripods is you cannot always use them - some locations ban the use of tripods.  There's also the fact that when shooting from a tripod, you lose a lot of flexibility and spontaneity compared to shooting hand held.

ISO is my main reason for thinking about upgrading to the M10R; the significantly quieter shutter of the M10 platform is an added bonus (my M10M shutter is easily 50% quieter than the shutter of my M-P 240).  When I add those two factors to the other strong points of the M10R, the thought of upgrading becomes rather tempting.

Edited November 22, 2020 by Herr Barnack

[tom.w.bn]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb crf59:

Actually I was in the same boat and recently traded my M240 on an M10-P. There are many things I like about the M10 vs the M240. They've all been hashed out before, but among them are slimmer form factor (the difference is much more noticeable when holding than numbers indicate), much quieter shutter (on my -P at least), much better viewfinder, better EVF in the smaller Visoflex, and I now have the level function and touchscreen (which I don't care much about). IQ-wise, the M10 does perform better (though it's not a huge difference) in virtually every area. Especially in dynamic range in my opinion. I thought about the 10R, and maybe I will down the road. For now I love the M10-P. 

I don't get it why people go crazy with the slimmer body. I like the M240 body better but that would not turn me off to upgrade to a M10R in the future. Can't see the 28mm framelines with both cameras, no advantage for me with the new viewfinder.

[martinot]

On 11/22/2020 at 4:10 PM, RayD28 said:

Do you plan to keep the m240?  I am in the same boat and with current values of the M240-P i've started thinking about keeping or giving away/loaning it to a family member.  With a Thumbs Up the slightly thicker 240 is easy to you use and I have no compliant with it until I get to higher ISO and want to do moderate copping.  

I came from an M9 that was more fidgety than a 10-year old VW Beatle I drove in college.  Probably just my example but I can't tell you how many times it locked up requiring a ritual of turning off and on, and removing batteries and SD cards. The 240P is as reliable as a brick doorstop.  The colors generally need tweaking in Lightroom but that's not a big deal for me.

Ray

Yes, I plan to keep my M-240 for many more years. I have instead spend more money this year on many new Leica and Zeiss lenses for it.

In 4-5 years time, the market for second hand M10R is probably much better (especially if the M11 is out), and I will buy a good and well kept one. 🙂

[jdlaing]

On 11/22/2020 at 4:31 PM, tom.w.bn said:

I don't get it why people go crazy with the slimmer body. I like the M240 body better but that would not turn me off to upgrade to a M10R in the future. Can't see the 28mm framelines with both cameras, no advantage for me with the new viewfinder.

It’s not that much slimmer and sacrifices a lot of battery life.

[Erato]

Advertisement (gone after registration)

A practical question, why Q2M and M10-R are a bit cheaper while comparing with M10 Monochrom and M10-P? 

Are they merely clone success and cost-down only?

Further than that, you might need to figure out whether it's a better-have features, ideal solution or it's a must-have.

There's something far beyond our knowledge while we stare our eyes upon the SPECs, sample images, and marketing scripts.

For instance, SNR, pixel clusters density, IQ, and print size(or online sharing) relevant to suitable senario fulfills your purpose of photography.

Edited December 15, 2020 by Erato

[intermediatic]

There's no question to me that the M10 is a much nicer feeling and looking camera than the M10. That said, I skipped the M10. Then again, I found I wasn't using the M240 very often and was only really using Fuji gear. Then I wound up getting the M10-M(onochrom), which was just fabulous, but also was such a big improvement that I decided it was time for the M-10R. I use both all the time now and don't touch the Fuji gear. The M10-M is really the revolution for me though, as it has such insane resolution and gives me an entirely different approach to photography that I'd left behind years ago when I switched from film to digital (I used to carry around a Contax G2 for E6 and a G1 that I'd load with Scala).