Dennis Posted November 10, 2020 Share #21 Posted November 10, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) It's a beautiful design, as always. Great specs. To be interested in purchase, in my ideal world, the Leica Q2M should have come with: 35mm FL (1.4, 1.t or even f/2), but 35mm at least 1/4000 Better display resolution (or even tilting screen) But it's me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 10, 2020 Posted November 10, 2020 Hi Dennis, Take a look here Leica Q2 Monochrom. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
robgo2 Posted November 10, 2020 Share #22 Posted November 10, 2020 For those who are dedicated B&W photographers and enjoy using color filters at the time of capture and who also can afford the price, it looks like a great camera. But as has been said, it fills a niche of a niche and is unlikely to be a "blockbuster," at least in terms of sales volume. That said, I expect that the cost of development for Leica was not great, as they already had the monochrome technology and the camera body. The only thing really new, it seems to me, is the sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameBrandon Posted November 10, 2020 Share #23 Posted November 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, Leica28 said: Hmmmm....the M10 Monochrom is $8295 - body only. You still have to feed it....aka lenses...a 28mm 1.4 is about $7,000. Who has a Q2 and doesn't already have M lenses? And I know many differ with this approach, but I don't use Leica cameras for when I need the absolute best IQ.. I have MF systems for that. I use Leica for images that I want to have character and emotion, so I'm more than happy to shoot an M10M with a 35 lux pre-asph or 50 cron pre-asph.. both of which I own already.. so for how I shoot (and I imagine for those who already have a decent M lens collection), it's not really that large of a financial gap to be crossed. If one is set on replicating a Q2M with a 28 Lux and a M10M, then I agree with you, financially that doesn't make much sense at all. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted November 10, 2020 Share #24 Posted November 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Clicknick said: I would be interested to see Leica produce a Q2 with a "fixed" Tri-Elmar fixed lens, to give real optical zoom, not digital, which will not give the same perspectives. 28-50-75 would be fabulous. hi There Nick Common mistake - perspective is a function of the distance from the subject, not the focal length of the lens, so although a trielmar would maintain the 47Mp, it would produce the same perspective as the digital zoom on the Q2. So when using the crop on the Q cameras you have the same perspective as a 35/50/75, but you still get the depth of field of a 28mm lens All the best 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted November 10, 2020 Share #25 Posted November 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, Leica28 said: Hmmmm....the M10 Monochrom is $8295 - body only. You still have to feed it....aka lenses...a 28mm 1.4 is about $7,000. But if you already have the lens . . . All the best 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Morgan Posted November 10, 2020 Share #26 Posted November 10, 2020 It's a great addition to a line up that does more and more for me. I can't wait to try one (and indeed the SL2s when it comes out) but wait is all I shall do pro tem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieboy Posted November 10, 2020 Share #27 Posted November 10, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ha, I remember on a Leica "wish list" type discussion here I wished for a Monochrome Q. (Just checked my past content, it was almost exactly a year ago.) I wished for it to have a 35mm lens though, so I can't take all the credit! I do have a Q and an M Monochrom which I mostly use with a 35 Summicron. This one will be tempting me in the long term. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted November 10, 2020 Share #28 Posted November 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, jonoslack said: So when using the crop on the Q cameras you have the same perspective as a 35/50/75, but you still get the depth of field of a 28mm lens This is great information, I had always thought the dof would match the crop perspective of the lens angle, i.e. a 50mm crop would give the dof of a 50mm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted November 10, 2020 Share #29 Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, darylgo said: A niche within a niche. Not for me, but happy that Leica innovates. For Leica, niches are their strength, not their weakness. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgarner Posted November 10, 2020 Share #30 Posted November 10, 2020 Want one. OMG. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted November 10, 2020 Share #31 Posted November 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, pcgarner said: Want one. OMG. Haha - so do I! I seem to have convinced myself, but I have no grannies left to sell! 2 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted November 10, 2020 Share #32 Posted November 10, 2020 Is it black anodised like the Q2, or matte black, like the Q-P? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted November 10, 2020 Share #33 Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Herr Barnack said: For Leica, niches are their strength, not their weakness. Good point. I am waiting for the niche within a niche within a niche. 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfphoto Posted November 10, 2020 Share #34 Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, darylgo said: This is great information, I had always thought the dof would match the crop perspective of the lens angle, i.e. a 50mm crop would give the dof of a 50mm. The equivalent aperture scales with the focal length, so the DOF is equivalent to: 28mm/1.7, 35mm/2.1, 50mm/3.0, 75mm/45. Perspective depends purely on the distance from the subject. So the Q2 in crop mode is like a 30MPx camera with a 35mm/2.1 "Summicron" with the added benefit of a 28mm viewfinder (rangefinder like). What I would like to have seen in the FW update is a feature to optionally magnify the 35mm (or 50mm) field of view in the EVF. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted November 10, 2020 Share #35 Posted November 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, sfphoto said: The equivalent aperture scales with the focal length, so the DOF is equivalent to: 28mm/1.7, 35mm/2.1, 50mm/3.0, 75mm/45. Perspective depends purely on the distance from the subject. So the Q2 in crop mode is like a 30MPx camera with a 35mm/2.1 "Summicron" with the added benefit of a 28mm viewfinder (rangefinder like). What I would like to have seen in the FW update is a feature to optionally magnify the 35mm (or 50mm) field of view in the EVF. Nicely put, it seems so simple, but causes so much confusion! I hadn't thought about it (because, to be honest, if I need to crop I do it in post processing) but your optional magnification is a good idea Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2020 Share #36 Posted November 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, sfphoto said: The equivalent aperture scales with the focal length, so the DOF is equivalent to: 28mm/1.7, 35mm/2.1, 50mm/3.0, 75mm/45. Perspective depends purely on the distance from the subject. So the Q2 in crop mode is like a 30MPx camera with a 35mm/2.1 "Summicron" with the added benefit of a 28mm viewfinder (rangefinder like). What I would like to have seen in the FW update is a feature to optionally magnify the 35mm (or 50mm) field of view in the EVF. Does the sensor become smaller so to speak when you crop or is it simply a lower resolution sensor but the same full frame size? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted November 10, 2020 Share #37 Posted November 10, 2020 Dpreview stated problems with internal reflections coming off the sensor 🤔 ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinch123 Posted November 11, 2020 Share #38 Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, darylgo said: Good point. I am waiting for the niche within a niche within a niche. 🙂 Me too... They should make one with a 50 APO on the front... Now *that* would be a niched niche! Self-bricking in a Decade feature could be an extra marketing point. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillavoider Posted November 11, 2020 Share #39 Posted November 11, 2020 does it have eye detection yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted November 11, 2020 Share #40 Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, kinch123 said: Self-bricking in a Decade feature could be an extra marketing point. LOL, many of my electronics do that currently, I miss my Commodore 64. 50 apo Q would be sweet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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