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I am reasonably sure an Elmar, though the image looked like a Tele Elmar. Looked fatter than an Elmar, I'll find out in a couple of days. Just took a look again, definitely looks like a Tele-Elmar, but the photo could be not of the lens. 

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Tom,

Some pictures taken in New Zealand with my Tele-Elmar 275xxxx (according Wiki form 1975). It was cold and the pictures were taken handheld with my M9-P.

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It would be worth searching the forum because this subject has been discussed often. I have both lenses. The older Elmar is a good lens. Optically the later lens very nearly approaches the performance of the current Leica offering. An M Elmar is usually chrome finish; the Tele-Elmar is black.

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the Tele-Elmar (just before the current APO 135) is very good, perhaps just a little less contrast than the current offering, but an excellent Lens.

I used in film days a 1960s Elmar : in my memory, resolution was good, but contrast was very low compared to more recent Lenses.

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4 hours ago, tommonego@gmail.com said:

I put a low bid on a rough 135 Elmar, to my surprise I won it, I have a thing for rough Leica lenses. They have never let me down. I don't have a viable 135mm so this could fit the bill. Is it possible to see some images from this lens. Thanks

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vor 4 Stunden schrieb wda:

It would be worth searching the forum because this subject has been discussed often. I have both lenses. The older Elmar is a good lens. Optically the later lens very nearly approaches the performance of the current Leica offering. An M Elmar is usually chrome finish; the Tele-Elmar is black.

Searching the sight didn't unearth much, but I leafed through the CL threads and found a reference you put up a while back, it was useful. I will be using this mostly on an M8 and M3, but it will find its way to my CL too. Thanks for the article reference.

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Here are some examples, strongly cropped:

I don‘t agree that the 4/135mm has low contrast. Of course it‘s lower than with the 135mm Apo-Telyt. Though you’ll see less contrast with  any lens with a design 30 years older than a modern one. I think it shows more contrast than a 50mm Summicron from the same age, which is no slouch by the way. 

If you look at the blurred background of my examples with thin branches you may see the „problem“ of this lens. With certain objects - especially if they are surrounded by bright light - the lens shows a lot of „color fringing“ caused by chromatic aberration. It is certainly no „Apo“-lens. The Tele-Elmar is better in this respect, and obviously the Apo-Telyt shows (almost) no chromatic aberrations. 

There are also some reasons to prefer the lens to modern versions: it‘s lighter and the focussing throw is very long, which supports exact focussing. 

 

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A good piece on the Tele-Elmar:

https://casualphotophile.com/2020/10/12/leitz-tele-elmar-135mm-f-4-review/

 - though whether or not he is right about the Sonnar connection I'm not qualified to say.

It's one of my favourite lenses (especially when I think how little it cost) and it can be magnificent for portraits.

 

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135mm F4..nice sharp lens..lanthanum glass..

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9 hours ago, Musotographer said:

A good piece on the Tele-Elmar:

https://casualphotophile.com/2020/10/12/leitz-tele-elmar-135mm-f-4-review/

 - though whether or not he is right about the Sonnar connection I'm not qualified to say.

It's one of my favourite lenses (especially when I think how little it cost) and it can be magnificent for portraits.

 

Hum, me too do not pretend to be qualified to assess the "Sonnar connection"... but iirc (Kingslake ?) the distinctive component of the original Zeiss Sonnar (derived in turn from Ernostar) was the cemented triplet (*)... an element not present in the tele Elmar... but dozen of lenses named "Sonnar" were made... it became , I think, more a trade mark for wide aperture lenses than the identificative of a certain glass' schema. 

(*) used indeed also in the "olympia Sonnar" of 1936 

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