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1 hour ago, SocialKonstruct said:

Why am I having a super hard time to find a film M body at a bargain price? Even the fabled M3 is still 1200 dollars :o!

I'm curious, what would be a bargain price for an M3 with good leatherette, proper shutter speeds, and little or no dust in the view finder?  

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10 minutes ago, RayD28 said:

I'm curious, what would be a bargain price for an M3 with good leatherette, proper shutter speeds, and little or no dust in the view finder?  

In 2003-2006 you could get a EX- M3 body for about 750-850 USD. Talk about a 50% explosion there.

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In 2008 I paid 1000 Euro for a new-old stock M6 classic. Those were the days. Ifr the economy goes the way some "experts" predict you will be able to trade for a carton of cigarettes... 🤕

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4 minutes ago, SocialKonstruct said:

In 2003-2006 you could get a EX- M3 body for about 750-850 USD. Talk about a 50% explosion there.

OK, fourteen years ago.  I wasn't in the market for one then.  I see them moving now for around $1,200 on reputable dealer sites.  

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5 hours ago, SocialKonstruct said:

Why am I having a super hard time to find a film M body at a bargain price? Even the fabled M3 is still 1200 dollars :o!

What do you want and what would you consider to be a bargain?

 

...and where are you looking? 

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5 hours ago, jaapv said:

In 2008 I paid 1000 Euro for a new-old stock M6 classic. Those were the days. Ifr the economy goes the way some "experts" predict you will be able to trade for a carton of cigarettes... 🤕

Or a box of toilet rolls... :D

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Seems, I could get plenty of toilet paper for my M cameras, which I bought 30-35 years ago. Right now, certainly a better investment compared with my stock portfolio...

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vor 10 Stunden schrieb SocialKonstruct:

Why am I having a super hard time to find a film M body at a bargain price? Even the fabled M3 is still 1200 dollars :o!

Because you - like many others - want now an article which has been state-of-the-art at its time and also belongs to a still supported camera system.
Ask for another camera brand of the fifties, which has gone long ago and you'll be happy with some lousy bucks. 

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2-3 weeks and prices will begin to drop, although I am not hoping for such as that means the Corona has its way with the world economies. But, I suspect that will be the case, especially for niche products such as Leica cameras. 
 

2018 and 2019 have seen the highest used Leica prices since I’ve joined photography and Leica about 8-9 years ago. 
 

in 2017 you could buy a mint M6 for $1500-2000 and M7s in similar condition were common at $2200. I bought a 35 FLE in 2016 for $3k. The cheapest now is $3700-4200. 
 

The prices will likely lower in coming weeks. 

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A year ago I sold both my non working M2s for $400. But both needed $4-500 of work, I was upfront with the buyer, he knew at $700 each fixed he'd have a good deal. He was young and not interested in digital, but his dad tells me everything goes on Instagram. A couple of months later I inherited a non working M3, fixed it guess I was meant to have a film Leica.

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3 minutes ago, Pyrogallol said:

I had an M6 for about six years and it doubled in value during that time, I sold it 18 months ago and the profit paid for my M4P.

But how can you shoot accurately without a built-in light meter? 😀 

 

(I have an M4-P also, with the MR-4 meter. Most of the time I leave the meter off.)

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11 minutes ago, bags27 said:

But how can you shoot accurately without a built-in light meter? 😀 

 

(I have an M4-P also, with the MR-4 meter. Most of the time I leave the meter off.)

I am so used to using a handheld meter that I found the blinking lights of the M6 meter distracting, forever telling you to make minor adjustments to the exposure. I do have some clip on meters I can use. The readings from them all are close to each other and to my other meters, given that they have different acceptance angles.

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I prefer sunny 16 if the light is relatively stable. if not, my iphone meter works just as well. the only downside to using a cell phone meter is that, if you forget to close the app, it really drains the battery.

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Another to think of it - you will have a camera that won't lose much in value providing you look after it. In a way of thinking, you are renting it for a few years. I bought one at Christmas and already it's clear that I'll likely never sell it. 

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