Einst_Stein Posted March 16, 2020 Share #1  Posted March 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) BP-SCL2 is only available from Leica. It raised the concern of long term availability. For now, 2~3 are enough for normal use, but considering to use M240 for, say, 10 or more years, how many spared batteries would you keep? The same question can be applied to other Leica cameras, such as SL.   Quote  Edit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jdlaing Posted March 16, 2020 Share #2 Â Posted March 16, 2020 One spare. There are many in stock everywhere. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted March 17, 2020 Share #3  Posted March 17, 2020 I have two and don't plan to buy anymore for now.  Not a bad idea to buy a couple of more but I'm not sure how long I'll keep my 240.  I know at least five more years or so.  Much after that time the extra batteries will not bring much in an estate sale.  🙂 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregm61 Posted March 20, 2020 Share #4  Posted March 20, 2020 The two batteries I have with my M262 were bought with the brand-new camera in Feb, 2016. Importantly, they still charge to 100% capacity and one charge lasts forever. I can shoot for 3-4 weeks on two batteries before I need to think about charging the first one I went through. If I am still using my M262 two years from now, I'll probably consider buying 1-2 more to layer in as by 6-7 years the original batteries will probably start being on the downhill side of life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted March 26, 2020 Share #5  Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/16/2020 at 11:49 PM, Einst_Stein said: BP-SCL2 is only available from Leica. It raised the concern of long term availability. For now, 2~3 are enough for normal use, but considering to use M240 for, say, 10 or more years, how many spared batteries would you keep? The same question can be applied to other Leica cameras, such as SL.    Quote  Edit  Now that the M240 family is not for sale new anymore, I have as many batteries as I need, for now, five strong ones. Never had to recycle one of them, they are longer lasting than my M8/M9 batteries some needing to be replaced after 6-8 years of use. I'd see when in some years (five -seven) if I can replace them in the event if I always use the M240 family by then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share #6 Â Posted March 26, 2020 I used to worry the LCD, but now seems it should be the battery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted March 29, 2020 Share #7  Posted March 29, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) when there is a market, China will make some. 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share #8  Posted March 31, 2020 On 3/29/2020 at 7:03 AM, jaeger said: when there is a market, China will make some. 🤣 Not necessary, unless you mean mass market. For example, the third party adapter for Leica M or L is far less than for Sony or Canon, if you can even find it. I once wanted a T/S adapter for Leica M or L. I  found many T/S adapters for Fujifilm medium format or Sony or Canon, but not for Leica yet.      Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblutter Posted April 12, 2020 Share #9  Posted April 12, 2020 I have 4, maybe more than I need. However, if I find a brand new one online for a good price, I'll buy it. I love the 240, have made giant crisp prints from it (with some help from PS) & will wait (probably 3 - 4 years) for M10R's to be reasonably priced. At that point my 240 will be about 10 yrs old & will be demoted to back-up. I'm still kicking myself in the butt for selling the M9 - should have held on to it but it did inspire a friend to really up his work... good came out of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #10  Posted April 13, 2020 I also haven't find a real reason to switch from M240 to new M's. Some people complained the thicker body of M240 compared to M10. To me that's BS. Color rendering? between Leica M's? BS too. The new technology may offer more pixel, higher ISO, or IBIS. I don't think there is much room for more pixel given the M mount specs. I also rarely need ISO over 1600, may be for scientific study? IBIS could be useful, but that is served with L mount already. Hey, when IBIS is important, so would be AF. What else can make M better? I don't get why Leica has to change the battery between M models! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted April 13, 2020 Share #11  Posted April 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Einst_Stein said: ... I don't get why Leica has to change the battery between M models! The bigger/fat battery of M240 family would not fit in the thinner body of M10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted April 13, 2020 Share #12  Posted April 13, 2020 I have a total of three batts for my M-P 240. So far, three has always been sufficient.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted April 13, 2020 Share #13  Posted April 13, 2020 I have two, I bought the camera secondhand and the battery it came with is a bit woeful compared to what I'd been lead to believe online about the 240 battery life (it manages about 350 shots) So I took a chance on a secondhand battery from ebay (for £25!) and that one gives about 7-800 shots On the one hand I think the first battery must be nearing the end of its life and perhaps I should invest in a new one, on the other hand I have enough batteries for over a 1000 shots and I can't imagine ever needing more... I've never even run the 350 one down in a single day! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #14 Â Posted April 13, 2020 10 hours ago, a.noctilux said: The bigger/fat battery of M240 family would not fit in the thinner body of M10. Hope Leica plan it carefully in the future. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmview Posted May 17, 2020 Share #15 Â Posted May 17, 2020 I have the original one plus one spare. I was quite happy with that but now you have me thinking I need another one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share #16  Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Some web posters said typically a battery can survive 300-500 cycles. Tis may be too conservative, but maybe the only thing I should rely on. Assuming each charge cycle can shoot 350-400 shots (advertised by Leica). The best scenario under the assumptions is 10K~20K shots per battery. With SL or M240, it is about filling  256GB ~ 512GB flash memory.  (300~500 recharge-cycles) * (350~400 shots per recharge cycle) * 32MB per shot ~=320GB~640GB. Or, using the old film calculator for reference, it's about 3K~5K rolls (36 exp). This is alarming. From now on I will give more thoughts before pushing the shutter button, even digital film is free!  Edited May 21, 2020 by Einst_Stein Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 21, 2020 Share #17  Posted May 21, 2020 You’re overthinking it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share #18  Posted May 21, 2020 13 hours ago, jdlaing said: You’re overthinking it. Better than regret! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 21, 2020 Share #19  Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Einst_Stein said: Better than regret! My original batteries are fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted May 21, 2020 Share #20  Posted May 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Einst_Stein said: Assuming each charge cycle can shoot 350-400 shots (advertised by Leica). I'd think it would make more sense to rely on your actual battery use.  If you have an M240 and make frequent use of live view or the external EVF you may get much less than 350-400 shots.  If you never use live view, have automatic review off, and rarely hit the play button (or own an M 262) than 350-400 shots may be half of what you actually get. I'm still using the battery that came with my M 262.  I do not have a second battery, yet.  At some time I will.  For MY use case -- yours may well be different -- a fully charged battery will shoot 5-10 time more pictures than I take on a day where I use the M 262 a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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