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I'm hugely conflicted. I see so many blurry out of focus pictures that are frankly very disappointing: I was so exited about this and put my name forward in June / July 2018 at my Leica store. I'm not sad I haven't got it yet because I'm not sold on what have seen so far. I'm seriously considering a Monochrome 1 and a F1 Noctilux as its about the same money. At the same time This must be a good camera, fin years later, but is the output nicer? obviously subjective. I don't know what to do if mine arrives this week. 

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1 hour ago, setuporg said:

I’d like to see a thorough M10M vs M246 comparison.  I wonder if the differential is wide enough to necessitate an upgrade.

I’m not a tester, and I don’t have my M-246 since I traded it in on this purchase, but in certain noticeable ways, after less than a week’s use, the M10 Monochrom beats out the M Monochrom. The clean files above 10,000 ISO are better, from my experience. There is a resolving power advantage to 40 MPs over 24, and I’m now going out with a 28, not 35 lens because I know I can crop. The M10 is a better form factor than the M-240. Whether any or all of that makes an expensive purchase worth it is a decision people have to make. I can say that, even though the M-246 was my favorite camera, initial results from the M10 Monochrom suggest it will supplant that affection.

Other than the math of 40>24, and the smaller form factor > bigger camera, all my opinions are just that!

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3 hours ago, M10Alpine said:

I'm hugely conflicted...  I don't know what to do if mine arrives this week. 

@M10Alpine,

If I were in your shoes, I would buy the M10 Monochrom. 

That way, you can shoot with it, process the files and see for yourself what your actual results will be rather than making your decision to buy and keep it based on the images other people have made with the M10M. 

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... I see so many blurry out of focus pictures that are frankly very disappointing: I was so exited about this and put my name forward in June / July 2018 at my Leica store. I'm not sad I haven't got it yet because I'm not sold on what have seen so far...

Did the shooter who made the images you have seen use Leica M glass?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Was their shooting technique good?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Do they know what they are doing with regard to post processing?  Maybe.  Maybe not.

Base your decision to keep or sell the M10M on your results, not on someone else's. 

If you still are not pleased with the image quality and results you get from the M10M, you can resell it for maybe 90-180 less than you paid for it.  There are plenty of photographers out there that would happily pay almost MSRP for an M10M that has had maybe 500 or 1000 shutter cycles on it rather than wait 6 to 12+ months to get an new in the box M10M.

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3 hours ago, Herr Barnack said:

@M10Alpine,

If I were in your shoes, I would buy the M10 Monochrom. 

That way, you can shoot with it, process the files and see for yourself what your actual results will be rather than making your decision to buy and keep it based on the images other people have made with the M10M. 

Did the shooter who made the images you have seen use Leica M glass?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Was their shooting technique good?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Do they know what they are doing with regard to post processing?  Maybe.  Maybe not.

Base your decision to keep or sell the M10M on your results, not on someone else's. 

If you still are not pleased with the image quality and results you get from the M10M, you can resell it for maybe 90-180 less than you paid for it.  There are plenty of photographers out there that would happily pay almost MSRP for an M10M that has had maybe 500 or 1000 shutter cycles on it rather than wait 6 to 12+ months to get an new in the box M10M.

Very fair point! 

I absolutely agree that one can only judge once own work, and results. I just ventilated a concern. On the M10 I had it fires week it was out and everything I saw by other made me fell super exited about getting it early. This one less so and parting with 8300 is substantial. I have the Leica glass to use this M10M for sure so as you say I might be able to sell it if I'm unhappy. 

Any one else seen slightly out of focus results posted in various threads online? Or is this just me ? 

Let's see if I have one on Wednesday, I deserve one for sure given that I paid a 500 € deposit on Jan 7th and have been on the list since 2018. 

My first Leica M was the 246 - currently I have no Leica Monochrome. 

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5 minutes ago, M10Alpine said:

Very fair point! 

I absolutely agree that one can only judge once own work, and results. I just ventilated a concern. On the M10 I had it fires week it was out and everything I saw by other made me fell super exited about getting it early. This one less so and parting with 8300 is substantial. I have the Leica glass to use this M10M for sure so as you say I might be able to sell it if I'm unhappy. 

Any one else seen slightly out of focus results posted in various threads online? Or is this just me ? 

Let's see if I have one on Wednesday, I deserve one for sure given that I paid a 500 € deposit on Jan 7th and have been on the list since 2018. 

My first Leica M was the 246 - currently I have no Leica Monochrome. 

To be fair to the M10M every pic I upload to this forum (even shot on film) is so downsized that it always looks crap lol so I’m guessing that is even more true with such a huge file. In the end I do feel I have to try it out and see for myself, especially given I only use lens from the 50s and 60s and all examples have been with asph/apo lens. If I like it, great...if I don’t I’ll sell it at no loss and just buy a M9M which is the best digital Leica ever (output wise)

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