The quality of TL 18-55 lens.

[dkCambridgeshire]

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1 hour ago, huwm said:

I use a marumi achromat +3 or +5 which are considerably cheaper than the elpro

The older Leitz Elpros can be adapted and can be sourced for relatively $£little … I've bought several of different diopter strengths for less than £10 each e.g. https://www.mwclassic.com/?post_type=product&s=elpro

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[huwm]

nice

[dkCambridgeshire]

18 hours ago, dkCambridgeshire said:

The older Leitz Elpros can be adapted and can be sourced for relatively $£little … I've bought several of different diopter strengths for less than £10 each e.g. https://www.mwclassic.com/?post_type=product&s=elpro

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BTW … A Leitz Macrotar is exactly the same as the equivalent Leitz Elpro 

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[oudjunk]

I received my TL2 with this lens already but i do not have time to go to test the result and many situations. 

but the size and weight are pretty good for me when compare to the full frame body of Leica cameras  

[firoze]

On 1/16/2020 at 8:16 PM, nicci78 said:

If you find a nice deal for used CL/TL2 + 18-56. It is good 

But if you are buying a brand new CL Vario kit. You’ll be better off with the Q2. Even with 28-35-50-75 mm crop mode taken into account, it will produce better results than TL 18-56. 
Of course if you got M or R lenses or planning to buy other L-mount lenses. Buy the CL 

To sum up Q2 provides variable sized sensor equivalent to 28-35-50-75mm with constant f/1.7 aperture. 
Vs 28-85mm zoom with variable f/3.5-5.6 

With CL and TL2 you get constant 24MP. Q2 provides 47-30-15-7MP

@Nicci78, is this really true? How can a 15 and 7Mp crop at 50 and 75mm respectively have better IQ than the optical zoom of the 24Mp CL with 18-56?

[bcorton]

On 2/13/2020 at 12:27 PM, firoze said:

@Nicci78, is this really true? How can a 15 and 7Mp crop at 50 and 75mm respectively have better IQ than the optical zoom of the 24Mp CL with 18-56?

I suppose, if one is really dedicated to the f/1.7 look . . . ?  I love my 18-56, and have other lenses for other needs. ‘Would like a Q2 someday though. 

Edited February 16, 2020 by bcorton

[firoze]

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11 minutes ago, bcorton said:

I suppose, if one is really dedicated to the f/1.7 look . . . ? 

Agreed about the look. But I think Nicci meant image quality per se, rather than look. And 7Mp at 75mm surely cannot compare with the CL + 18-56 at 75mm?

[bcorton]

4 hours ago, firoze said:

Agreed about the look. But I think Nicci meant image quality per se, rather than look. And 7Mp at 75mm surely cannot compare with the CL + 18-56 at 75mm?

Yep.  That claim would be a bit of a head-scratcher.

[d_w_wolves]

Am 13.2.2020 um 20:27 schrieb firoze:

@Nicci78, is this really true? How can a 15 and 7Mp crop at 50 and 75mm respectively have better IQ than the optical zoom of the 24Mp CL with 18-56?

I'm realy very happy with my results, out of my TL 18-56 with my Cl, for my hobby potographíng.

I don't need professional big poster prints. I'm happy, looking my pictures on my EIZO monitor CS2730 or on my big TV 4 K screen.