oudjunk Posted January 16, 2020 Share #1 Posted January 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have used Leica T as my first leica camera before and i reserved for the special offer TL2 with TL 18-55 in good price that i will receive end of this month. I have never used TL18-55 lens before. what do you think about this lens could i keep it or just sell it for get my money. for this time i have another M lenses with adapter (I have SL as well) My purpose that i wanna buy TL2 because the size and good price with lens bundle. Thanks for your suggestions and can't wait to try it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Le Chef Posted January 16, 2020 Share #2 Posted January 16, 2020 The TL 18-56 is a very good all purpose lens that could be the only lens some people ever own. It’s not fast, but with the CL/TL2 sensor it doesn’t need to be fast. I would suggest owning it until you feel you need something else. That could be the wider 11-23, or longer with the 55-135, or faster fixed focal lenses like the TL35. The TL 18-56 is a good base lens and some days that’s maybe all you want to take with you and all you really need. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted January 16, 2020 Share #3 Posted January 16, 2020 It's a much better lens than its reputation sometimes suggests. I bought one used, enjoyed it for nearly a year, and then sold it for pretty much what I bought it for. I agree with Le Chef: it's an excellent lens that may be all you need. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroMirage Posted January 16, 2020 Share #4 Posted January 16, 2020 Agreed. The 18-56 is a good lens. I have used it with a TL2 and now with a CL. Sharp from corner to corner. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oudjunk Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted January 16, 2020 Thanks all of you guys. could you share the picture from this lens? i think i will try it first because i have used this focal length when i use canon eos m and the quality is not good but it's quite ok as a kit zoom lens. the only thing that i worry about it's not fast lens that will get some problem with low light. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 16, 2020 Share #6 Posted January 16, 2020 At a guess, about 2500 of them in the CL image thread... The quality of the lens is Leica all the way and the ISO performance is more than adequate on the CL. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 16, 2020 Share #7 Posted January 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) You won't get any indication of lens IQ from pictures uploaded to the forum, but if you want to try, just look through the CL and TL2 picture threads - you'll see far more there than you'll get here. The 'reputation' of this lens is denigrated by those who have not used it and are new to Leica. Anyone who uses their own judgement to appraise the lens can see that it is excellent. Leica just does not do lenses that fall into the category of a 'cheap, low quality kit lens'. 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted January 16, 2020 Share #8 Posted January 16, 2020 7 hours ago, oudjunk said: Thanks all of you guys. could you share the picture from this lens? i think i will try it first because i have used this focal length when i use canon eos m and the quality is not good but it's quite ok as a kit zoom lens. the only thing that i worry about it's not fast lens that will get some problem with low light. You should also go to LFI gallery where you can filter by camera and see the lens used for the shot. https://lfi-online.de/ceemes/en/gallery/q-mastershots.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted January 16, 2020 Share #9 Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) If you find a nice deal for used CL/TL2 + 18-56. It is good But if you are buying a brand new CL Vario kit. You’ll be better off with the Q2. Even with 28-35-50-75 mm crop mode taken into account, it will produce better results than TL 18-56. Of course if you got M or R lenses or planning to buy other L-mount lenses. Buy the CL To sum up Q2 provides variable sized sensor equivalent to 28-35-50-75mm with constant f/1.7 aperture. Vs 28-85mm zoom with variable f/3.5-5.6 With CL and TL2 you get constant 24MP. Q2 provides 47-30-15-7MP Edited January 16, 2020 by nicci78 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huwm Posted January 16, 2020 Share #10 Posted January 16, 2020 Great lens Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 16, 2020 Share #11 Posted January 16, 2020 9 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: Leica just does not do lenses that fall into the category of a 'cheap, low quality kit lens'. Nobody does this (anymore?). So called kit lenses are mostly excellent, being as they tend to be not so fast and limited in focal length - the superzoom type lenses are another matter which do sacrifice quality for convenience. Kit lenses are great value because the manufacturers know they will sell high volumes - economies of scale etc. A while ago I compared the Canon 18-55 'kit' with their superior f2.8 version (said to be equal quality to their full frame L range) and at the same apertures I couldn't see any difference in quality. Back in the day a prime 50mm f1.8 or f2 lens was the usual 'kit' lens with a new SLR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 16, 2020 Share #12 Posted January 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, earleygallery said: Nobody does this (anymore?). So called kit lenses are mostly excellent, being as they tend to be not so fast and limited in focal length - the superzoom type lenses are another matter which do sacrifice quality for convenience. Kit lenses are great value because the manufacturers know they will sell high volumes - economies of scale etc. A while ago I compared the Canon 18-55 'kit' with their superior f2.8 version (said to be equal quality to their full frame L range) and at the same apertures I couldn't see any difference in quality. Back in the day a prime 50mm f1.8 or f2 lens was the usual 'kit' lens with a new SLR. I was thinking of just this Canon combination. Around 2009 I bought a Canon 550D and took the more expensive midrange zoom instead of the standard one on offer. I noticed a difference at the time, but it is too long ago now to give remember exactly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 16, 2020 Share #13 Posted January 16, 2020 the -horrible plastic- Canon 50/1.8 was an excellent lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted January 16, 2020 Share #14 Posted January 16, 2020 Surprising good lens. There is a guy who did comparisons of two of the CL zooms against M lenses on the CL - with very surprising results. The zooms hold up fully. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marac Posted January 17, 2020 Share #15 Posted January 17, 2020 Ahhh the plastic fantastic 50mm f1.8, had one with my old Canon 5D mkI years ago, along with the big brother 85mm f1.8 it was a great prime combination for weddings Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oudjunk Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 1:40 AM, jaapv said: the -horrible plastic- Canon 50/1.8 was an excellent lens. this was my budget favorite lens of mine when i used the canon m6 but the lens got fungus inside i decided to decrease price to sell it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemasty Posted January 24, 2020 Share #17 Posted January 24, 2020 Have only just purchased the CL along with the 18-56mm lens. I gotta say that the image quality is excellent. as a previous post stated, it's sharp corner to corner. Yes it's 'not a fast lens', but in all honesty, the image quality from the sensor at higher ISOs is excellent. and as someone else pointed out, don't mistake this for your typical 'kit lens' (equating 'kit lens' with cheap mass produced lens to get starter photographer going ). Its far removed from that. Leica just dont do 'cheap'. I had a Fuji system and the Fujinon 18-55mm. This was a cracking lens. The Leica in my opinion is better, much better! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted January 26, 2020 Share #18 Posted January 26, 2020 … and consider adding a Leitz / Leica Elpro to the TL 18-56mm and experiment with the combination's close-up capabilities https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/305677-macro-lens-for-cl/?do=findComment&comment=3900047 dunk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huwm Posted January 26, 2020 Share #19 Posted January 26, 2020 I use a marumi achromat +3 or +5 which are considerably cheaper than the elpro Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted January 26, 2020 Share #20 Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) The question might be if you need a fast 35mm alongside the zoom in low light situation and family inside photography. I assume that the zoom is a bit slow and that you get easily ISOs that are outside the optimal range. If true you will have to start with the versatile zoom plus a fast fix focus lens 23mm 2.0 or even the 35mm. Edited January 26, 2020 by M10 for me wrong focal lenght Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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