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This one was my error (not the lens') , as focus was on the players in the foreground.  Some of the graininess was due to rainy weather. I like the photo nonetheless despite its flaws. 

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54 minutes ago, peterv said:

Rob, out of interest, what were your sharpening settings in these colourphotos? Did you keep the clarity, dehaze and texture at zero?

Candidly,  I did very little to them.  They were post processed in Apple Photos with simple adjustments.  Very little time spent, perhaps a few seconds on each.  Rob

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Same image through Lightroom.  Room

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Thanks, I do like the sharpness fall-off and the way the trees in the background are rendered very much, beautiful lens.

And as always, great every day life photos, I have a feeling your children and grandchildren will be forever grateful for the work you are doing.

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1 minute ago, peterv said:

Thanks, I do like the sharpness fall-off and the way the trees in the background are rendered very much, beautiful lens.

And as always, great every day life photos, I have a feeling your children and grandchildren will be forever grateful for the work you are doing.

Thank you, PeterV.  

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Jan1985:

It renders differently than the S120, and is more compact, but only you can answer whether it is "worth it" to you to invest in it. Would I buy it?  I did - despite owning the S120. I suppose all of these lenses can be sold on the pre-owned market if you decide you want to free-up funds for something else.    

Will you forever regret not "trying it" out if you pass up this opportunity. Perhaps. I know had I not purchased it I would have kept wondering.

Some have commented it can render similarly to the Noctilux.  Could you get by with just a 50 1.4 summilux instead?  To me, it is kind of the same consideration. 

Good luck making a decision!  Rob

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vor 54 Minuten schrieb ropo54:

Jan1985:

It renders differently than the S120, and is more compact, but only you can answer whether it is "worth it" to you to invest in it. Would I buy it?  I did - despite owning the S120. I suppose all of these lenses can be sold on the pre-owned market if you decide you want to free-up funds for something else.    

Will you forever regret not "trying it" out if you pass up this opportunity. Perhaps. I know had I not purchased it I would have kept wondering.

Some have commented it can render similarly to the Noctilux.  Could you get by with just a 50 1.4 summilux instead?  To me, it is kind of the same consideration. 

Good luck making a decision!  Rob

Thanks for your tips. You are right. 4.000€ are a reasonable price compared to 7.500€ for a new one. And if I have the chance to sell it at the same price level if I don't need it anymore. I know it is special. I already own the 50mm Noctilux which I mostly use on weddings...

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9 hours ago, Jan1985 said:

What I still struggle with... Is the 100mm so special that it makes sense to own it beside a 120mm??? Thats my biggest question. I find no answer at the moment.

Well, 120mm will be just a tad too long for portraiture that is anything other than just the head and the 100mm isn't a close focus lens so there are two valid reasons to have both.

The way to answer this is to look through your back catalogue of images and consider all thoes taken with the 120mm. Ask yourself if there are any that you would have been unable to take if you'd had the 100mm. If the answer is more than half then keep both, if the answer is less than one quarter, keep the 120mm.

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb geetee1972:

Well, 120mm will be just a tad too long for portraiture that is anything other than just the head and the 100mm isn't a close focus lens so there are two valid reasons to have both.

The way to answer this is to look through your back catalogue of images and consider all thoes taken with the 120mm. Ask yourself if there are any that you would have been unable to take if you'd had the 100mm. If the answer is more than half then keep both, if the answer is less than one quarter, keep the 120mm.

To be honest. I didn't use 120mm a lot in the past. I bought the s007 in Nov 2018. Mostly I used the 70mm. But I thought keeping the 120mm is more clever because I got it for around 3.000€ and it is the CS version with changed AF motor. But as you said it's a bit close for head portraits. I tried some real near closeups with it but often it has too much detail that you see every little aspect of the skin of the model... And Macro Work? I don't do that much... But on the other hand the 120mm seems a very nice lens...

 

That is my dilemma...

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1 hour ago, Jan1985 said:

To be honest. I didn't use 120mm a lot in the past. I bought the s007 in Nov 2018. Mostly I used the 70mm. But I thought keeping the 120mm is more clever because I got it for around 3.000€ and it is the CS version with changed AF motor. But as you said it's a bit close for head portraits. I tried some real near closeups with it but often it has too much detail that you see every little aspect of the skin of the model... And Macro Work? I don't do that much... But on the other hand the 120mm seems a very nice lens...

 

That is my dilemma...

Well that sounds like you might have the chance to sell it for a profit, at which point selling it won't feel like a wrench. Keeping a lens you don't use because it felt like a bargain is a bit of a false economy but I completely understand the sentiment.

I got my 100m Summicron for just under €3500, also with the AF motor replaced and will be very reluctant to let it go for the same reason.

 

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vor 4 Minuten schrieb geetee1972:

Well that sounds like you might have the chance to sell it for a profit, at which point selling it won't feel like a wrench. Keeping a lens you don't use because it felt like a bargain is a bit of a false economy but I completely understand the sentiment.

I got my 100m Summicron for just under €3500, also with the AF motor replaced and will be very reluctant to let it go for the same reason.

 

The 100mm I have is from 2014 but the AF motor is not replaced. So it might be not a good deal?

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1 minute ago, Jan1985 said:

The 100mm I have is from 2014 but the AF motor is not replaced. So it might be not a good deal?

Hard to say, the AF motor replacement isn't that expensive and from what I can tell it's not that much of a problem. How much is the dealer asking for the lens?

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Gerade eben schrieb geetee1972:

Hard to say, the AF motor replacement isn't that expensive and from what I can tell it's not that much of a problem. How much is the dealer asking for the lens?

At the moment he wants 4.150€. But I will try to get it for 4.000€.

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Just now, Jan1985 said:

At the moment he wants 4.150€. But I will try to get it for 4.000€.

Perhaps your tactic can be to ask the dealer to reduce it by the exact amount the AF motor would cost to replace should it fail. That seems like a reasonable request. Alternatively, agree to pay the asking price if the dealer gets the AF motor fixed on your behalf.

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Thats a real good argument. I will try that. From using the 100mm I am thinking yeah it has a more special look than the 120mm. Even if they are very close in DOF. The thing of the 120mm that is one of the best and sharpest optics... Do you still use it after purchasing the 100?

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vor 4 Minuten schrieb geetee1972:

Perhaps your tactic can be to ask the dealer to reduce it by the exact amount the AF motor would cost to replace should it fail. That seems like a reasonable request. Alternatively, agree to pay the asking price if the dealer gets the AF motor fixed on your behalf.

Thats a real good argument. I will try that. From using the 100mm I am thinking yeah it has a more special look than the 120mm. Even if they are very close in DOF. The thing of the 120mm that is one of the best and sharpest optics... Do you still use it after purchasing the 100?

 
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Just now, Jan1985 said:

Thats a real good argument. I will try that. From using the 100mm I am thinking yeah it has a more special look than the 120mm. Even if they are very close in DOF. The thing of the 120mm that is one of the best and sharpest optics... Do you still use it after purchasing the 100?

 
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I've only had it a few months but i've used it for every portrait shoot I've done since that time. I used it for perhaps one of my five personal favourite images I've ever made:

41Jan 18 2020 by Greg Turner, on Flickr

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