Kwesi Posted January 5, 2020 Share #41 Posted January 5, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 4 minutes ago, Rob L said: Sample variation. The two Summicron 35 ASPH versions are optically identical. The 28 Summicron and Elmarit ASPH vII lenses are tweaked very slightly compared to the vI, lenses, but not the 35. I like the new hood better though. "Sample variation". So are you really saying that some Leica 35/2 ASPH lenses are sharper than others and its just a matter of luck what lens you get? Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob L Posted January 5, 2020 Share #42 Posted January 5, 2020 Absolutely! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 5, 2020 Share #43 Posted January 5, 2020 Or different focusings as often with rangefinders. Leica MTF charts look identical anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkinners Posted January 5, 2020 Share #44 Posted January 5, 2020 I would buy a APO 35cron in a heartbeat if it exist and the same or less price of APO 50cron. If we talking about the price of Noctilux then no. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 5, 2020 Share #45 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Kwesi said: "Sample variation". So are you really saying that some Leica 35/2 ASPH lenses are sharper than others and its just a matter of luck what lens you get? Really? You should look up LensRentals’ Roger Cicala’s writings, and rigorous optical tests, on the subject... across manufacturers. Jeff Edited January 5, 2020 by Jeff S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted January 5, 2020 Share #46 Posted January 5, 2020 7 hours ago, lct said: Or different focusings as often with rangefinders. Leica MTF charts look identical anyway. Thanks lct, in the link above the high resolution comparison was done with a Sony A7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted January 5, 2020 Share #47 Posted January 5, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Jeff S said: You should look up LensRentals’ Roger Cicala’s writings, and rigorous optical tests, on the subject... across manufacturers. Jeff Thanks for the info Jeff, My goal was to give the OP an option based on my experience and an actual comparison done on a high resolution sensor. For all I know the OP may already have a 35/2 ASPH v2 and is not satisfied. I have no intention of hijacking this thread so I won't respond to further comments regarding my post so as to get this thread back on track. In the future try to take the time to provide an actual link that proves your point rather than telling me to go do my homework. If nothing else it proves that you've done your homework. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 5, 2020 Share #48 Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kwesi said: Thanks lct, in the link above the high resolution comparison was done with a Sony A7 Sorry if i sound negative but i would not rely on A7 bodies whose sensor stacks are too thick, unless you've been using a Kolari modded body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 6, 2020 Share #49 Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kwesi said: In the future try to take the time to provide an actual link that proves your point rather than telling me to go do my homework. If nothing else it proves that you've done your homework. I generally do *, but in this case there are dozens of related articles on the site. Here’s one that might pique your curiosity... https://wordpress.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/06/measuring-lens-variance/ I’m hardly the only one to recognize Roger’s contributions, on this and other subjects. His company rents gear from many manufacturers, and does its own repairs (and fun tear downs) to ensure proper operation and to investigate important gear related issues. Lens sample variation is one such topic. https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/06/27/lens-tests-for-the-real-real-world-why-lensrentals-are-the-only-people-in-t Jeff * Edited January 6, 2020 by Jeff S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebben Posted January 29, 2021 Share #50 Posted January 29, 2021 It’s coming... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304757-apo-m-35-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=4127893'>More sharing options...
padam Posted January 29, 2021 Share #51 Posted January 29, 2021 I would expect it to cost just as much as a 50mm APO-Summicron-M does. So, it will probably top the APO-Summicron-SL with regards to pricing, but can it do the same with regards to performance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebben Posted January 29, 2021 Share #52 Posted January 29, 2021 Probably not but it will be smaller 😊 a premium worth paying for no doubt. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick in CO Posted January 29, 2021 Share #53 Posted January 29, 2021 The Leica 35mm M lens is past ready for a "digital update". As pointed out other lenses in the M range have gone APO or at least tweaked for digital sensor. Supposedly Leica has been very cautious to label lenses "APO". According to Erwin Puts the 90mm Macro Elmar-M is essentially , but not stringently apochromatic, therefore not labeled as such. With the latter in mind, how is the apochromatic character of the 35mm f2.4 Summarit-M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 29, 2021 Share #54 Posted January 29, 2021 7 hours ago, Rick in CO said: According to Erwin Puts the 90mm Macro Elmar-M is essentially , but not stringently apochromatic, therefore not labeled as such. BTW, it seems Mr. Puts has left the building and turned out the lights. https://photo.imx.nl Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted January 29, 2021 Share #55 Posted January 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jeff S said: BTW, it seems Mr. Puts has left the building and turned out the lights. https://photo.imx.nl Jeff Hope they are ok. He was working on a new book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel C.1975 Posted January 29, 2021 Share #56 Posted January 29, 2021 One can only hope for an 35mm APO Summicron-m. I am gone from the M-Land for the time being but am using a 35 apo summicron-sl and it is the most incredible lens I have ever used in my life. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted January 29, 2021 Share #57 Posted January 29, 2021 13 hours ago, sebben said: It’s coming... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Looking for glitches in the matrix again Seb? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrostl Posted January 30, 2021 Share #58 Posted January 30, 2021 I expect Voigtlander to beat Leica to it at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen.s1 Posted January 30, 2021 Share #59 Posted January 30, 2021 Rooting for the big V 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted January 31, 2021 Share #60 Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 9:52 AM, Rick in CO said: The Leica 35mm M lens is past ready for a "digital update". As pointed out other lenses in the M range have gone APO or at least tweaked for digital sensor. Supposedly Leica has been very cautious to label lenses "APO". According to Erwin Puts the 90mm Macro Elmar-M is essentially , but not stringently apochromatic, therefore not labeled as such. With the latter in mind, how is the apochromatic character of the 35mm f2.4 Summarit-M? Wasn’t the 35 Cron “updated for digital” within the past two years at least according to Leica’s marketing, along with adding the metal hood and aperture blade? I think a newly updated 35 Cron would be interesting. I had heard a rumor about a potential 50 Lux replacement in the coming years as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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