Summicron-M 28mm f/2 ASPH new

[dickgillberg]

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I need some input about this lens. Do you like it? It is not my first choice of a lens but I might consider another thought. I've used the first version, but did not use it to much. Didn't like the large hood. The new model seems to be a bit smaller.

thanks

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[lct]

Depends on the hood. 12588 here (left). W/o hood the new lens (right) is slightly taller. As for IQ the new lens would have sharper corners when focusing at infinity AFAIK but i don't focus this way personally so i don't find significant differences. I'm no pixel peeper though. FWIW.

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[jensthoes]

...the standard hood is too big and hides to much of the finder.

I use the "Heliopan Telekurz-Sonnenblende" E-46mm Höhe 13mm on my Summicron-M 28mm (first version)!

It works without vignetting, it is very effectiv and is very agreable in the finder.

Best,

Jens

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[dickgillberg]

Thank you for the compare of lenses. Do you like it for its quality?

[lct]

20 minutes ago, dickgillberg said:

Thank you for the compare of lenses. Do you like it for its quality?

It is my favorite 28mm. I have no experience with the Summilux 28/1.4 though.

[Mark II]

It is an excellent lens. I use mine with a cheap UV filter ring that has had the glass removed - almost no finder blockage and minimal flare despite the reduced hood (the filter ring mainly helps to avoid fingers touching the front element). 

Downsides: it is a well behaved lens that imparts very little signature to images. It is very expensive for what it does, and the speed is sometimes limiting if you shoot film. It is sometimes a little softer wide open than I would like - it takes more sharpening in CO than other lenses that I use. 
 

Upsides: it is small and light, and has no major faults. Finder blockage is minimal for a relatively fast lens. Fairly flat plane of focus and good corner sharpness compared to Summilux lenses. 

Edited December 10, 2019 by Mark II

[otto.f]

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Great lens. Some see it in the same league as the APO 50. I can imagine why they say that, although I do not own that 50, they would fit in a one reportage. The hood is a blessing compared to the first asph.

[lawman]

1 hour ago, lct said:

It is my favorite 28mm. I have no experience with the Summilux 28/1.4 though.

Have you had the front ring loosen or fall off when the small screws work loose?  I repaired mine with nail polish and then stopped using the Leica hood and went with one similar to Jens and since then no problems. I doubt that you would see any difference between the new and old once you stop down to f4/5.6

[Mark II]

It is not in the same league as the 50 APO, but the plane of focus in fairly flat and performance across the image is consistent right in to the far corners. 
 

It makes a very good companion to the 50mm Summilux, having the same filter size and similarly excellent bokeh (though you need to shoot very close to see it...)

[lct]

18 minutes ago, lawman said:

Have you had the front ring loosen or fall off when the small screws work loose?  [...]

No but i don't grab my lenses by the hood. 

[lawman]

4 hours ago, lct said:

No but i don't grab my lenses by the hood. 

That's good practice!!!  I didn't grab mine by the hood either, but it still came loose - but I bought it used, so perhaps the previous owner was a hood grabber 🤬

[lct]

7 hours ago, lawman said:

That's good practice!!!  I didn't grab mine by the hood either, but it still came loose - but I bought it used, so perhaps the previous owner was a hood grabber 🤬

There was nothing personal in my post above of course . The new lens should have less problems in that respect.

[MarkP]

I love mine. One of my favourite lenses and focal lengths.

I have the v1. I tried two v2 samples and compared them to mine on M10 at home.  Neither one performed 'better' than mine. I wanted them to be better as I would have quite liked to standardise my lenses with the more compact hood,  I do shoot a lot on digital. Imaging/rendering was identical. Indistinguishable differences in the centre and my v1 was better in the corners.  Returned them and kept my v1 - saved a lot of money.

 

I have never used the original v1 hood. Too bulky. I use either the old 35mm Summilux hood or the lovely but outrageously expensive Leica round scalloped metal hood.

 

Edited December 11, 2019 by MarkP

[MarkP]

13 hours ago, Mark II said:

It is not in the same league as the 50 APO, but the plane of focus in fairly flat and performance across the image is consistent right in to the far corners. 
 

It makes a very good companion to the 50mm Summilux, having the same filter size and similarly excellent bokeh (though you need to shoot very close to see it...)

I agree.

[otto.f]

1 hour ago, lct said:

There was nothing personal in my post above of course . The new lens should have less problems in that respect.

Absolutely, no risk with getting it by the hood, unless the hood-cap is on it and you grab it only on that cap, which is notorious for getting lost, so I learnt to leave that in my bag.

[dickgillberg]

Thank you. I think I'm going to try it out. And I'll be using it with my 50 Summilux, my 35 Summicron will stay at home for a while.😊

[dickgillberg]

14 hours ago, Mark II said:

It is an excellent lens. I use mine with a cheap UV filter ring that has had the glass removed - almost no finder blockage and minimal flare despite the reduced hood (the filter ring mainly helps to avoid fingers touching the front element). 

Downsides: it is a well behaved lens that imparts very little signature to images. It is very expensive for what it does, and the speed is sometimes limiting if you shoot film. It is sometimes a little softer wide open than I would like - it takes more sharpening in CO than other lenses that I use. 
 

Upsides: it is small and light, and has no major faults. Finder blockage is minimal for a relatively fast lens. Fairly flat plane of focus and good corner sharpness compared to Summilux lenses. 

Thanks for the filter ring idea , Mark II 

[colint544]

I have a 2010 version 1. I think it's fabulous. With environmental portraits, you can really isolate the subject at F2. If you're close enough to your subject, the background can melt away quite beautifully. As pointed out above, it's a great companion lens to the 50mm Summilux ASPH.

The latest version is said to be sharper in the corners, and has a better-designed hood. And I imagine the front part of the lens doesn't  become loose, like the version 1 is prone to.

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[MarkP]

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Edited December 13, 2019 by MarkP

[lct]

13 minutes ago, MarkP said:

You might enjoy this old thread...

 

 

Haha boring thread indeed