Popular Post ELAN Posted December 8, 2019 Popular Post Share #1 Posted December 8, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) A few weeks ago the shutter on my M10-P broke. Instead of sending in the camera for weeks (or months) I took a short vacation in Wetzlar to have the shutter replaced while I wait. As luck would have it a 35mm Summilux ASPHERICAL (AA) was waiting for me in Wetzlar. So I set out to test the lens in a variety of lighting conditions (except sunny), mostly wide open but also at f/4. Optically I find it superior to the 35 FLE, less sharp and contrasty, with beautiful rendering and bokah that produces a gentle 3D effect. Background highlights are tame and the colors are nicely muted. Images needed minimal post-processing, less than the 35 FLE usually needs. Ergonomically the lens is quite nice to handle, almost as nice as the 35 FLE. Sample images shot with the 35 AA are not very common so I thought I’d share mine. The link below contains a variety of images in full resolution. The first half of images were shot with M240-P and rest with M10-P. Very minimal processing in LR (basic sliders +/- 10 max). All images shot handheld at f/1.4 or f/4. Lens had no hood/shade but a Leica UVa filter, even at night. https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-fCSD9R/ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 16 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=3869742'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 Hi ELAN, Take a look here 35mm Summilux ASPHERICAL (AA) Sample images. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
a5m Posted December 8, 2019 Share #2 Posted December 8, 2019 Wow...Leica Wetzlar and a 35 AA! Dream come true! Excellent images btw. There's something special with the rendering. Do you feel that can't be replicated by the FLE? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELAN Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted December 8, 2019 The 35 FLE has been my most used lens for years. But I’ve always had a love-hate relationship with it — search the forum and you’ll find my criticism of it — of how it renders background highlights, its “clinical” sharpness and how I never quite know what I will get with it (unlike my other Summilux lenses). Recently, on advise of a friend, I started using the 35 FLE at apertures of f/2.0 and f/2.4 and I like it more than its wide open rendering. To answer your question, some of these 35 AA images (especially those with the subject at 1m to 1.5m and wide open) render differently than how my FLE renders. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted December 12, 2019 Share #4 Posted December 12, 2019 Sweet look...and sweet lens! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo-Sixten Posted December 12, 2019 Share #5 Posted December 12, 2019 Thanks for sharing ELAN. Great to see so many good sample photos with this lens. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_w_wolves Posted December 12, 2019 Share #6 Posted December 12, 2019 Am 8.12.2019 um 18:11 schrieb ELAN: A few weeks ago the shutter on my M10-P broke. Instead of sending in the camera for weeks (or months) I took a short vacation in Wetzlar to have the shutter replaced while I wait. As luck would have it a 35mm Summilux ASPHERICAL (AA) was waiting for me in Wetzlar. So I set out to test the lens in a variety of lighting conditions (except sunny), mostly wide open but also at f/4. Optically I find it superior to the 35 FLE, less sharp and contrasty, with beautiful rendering and bokah that produces a gentle 3D effect. Background highlights are tame and the colors are nicely muted. Images needed minimal post-processing, less than the 35 FLE usually needs. Ergonomically the lens is quite nice to handle, almost as nice as the 35 FLE. Sample images shot with the 35 AA are not very common so I thought I’d share mine. The link below contains a variety of images in full resolution. The first half of images were shot with M240-P and rest with M10-P. Very minimal processing in LR (basic sliders +/- 10 max). All images shot handheld at f/1.4 or f/4. Lens had no hood/shade but a Leica UVa filter, even at night. https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-fCSD9R/ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sehr, sehr schöne Aufnahmen! Wonderful pics! Grüße Fred 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enboe Posted December 15, 2019 Share #7 Posted December 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think the photo taken at 2019-12-05 10:16:43 is the best example. Lovely composition, subject/background separation, and lens-unique bokeh balls from the Christmas tree lights. I bought mine nearly 20 years ago when you could get a new ASPH or a used/mint ASPHERICAL for the same price. You have re-inspired me to get it out for this holiday season. Eric 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwF Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Beautiful pics and you couldn't have ordered in a nicer fog! Overall and especially the last few, I feel like this lens is similar to the Summilux Asph 11874 (pre-FLE) that I just played with last weekend, as I may pick it up. Of course not seeing side by side but characteristics of not rendering harshly or "clinical" and also the bokeh are shared by these -lovely look!. I realize the AA is prized and pricey but those are my two cents. Thank you for sharing! David Edited January 8, 2020 by DwF Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 8, 2020 Share #9 Posted January 8, 2020 I had a chance once, about 2002, to compare the AA and the ASPH v.1 side by side. Alas, no pictures survive (and they were pretty boring resolution tests of a wall of camera boxes in a shop). At the time, one could get the AA for about $4995 used, while the ASPH was $2995 new. My brief take: compared to the ASPH, the AA is slightly sharper in the center but fuzzier in the corners at f/1.4, and yellower. Sort of a blend of a Mandler "journalist's" look with the modern ASPH look. Some of those smugmug f/1.4 pictures capture that well. As a fan of the Mandler "look" - but also the extraordinary ASPH corner performance - I'd be hard-pressed to choose between them, even if priced identically. Noticeably different, but each in its own beautiful way. Yeah, yeah, I know - "Just win the Lotto and get both!" 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwF Posted January 8, 2020 Share #10 Posted January 8, 2020 Thanks for that , and I definitely see the sharpness in center, particularly in the tight-in "portrait" of the gal wearing green hat and white jacket holding a coffee cup. I never handled an AA but do remember reading about it back in early 2000 I think in an issue of Viewfinder. I'm intrigued by the 11874 Pre-FLE because of its' rendering. Just playing with it, my sense was if there is focus shift at 2.8 it is really subtle. I took a close in shot at f1.4 and then 2.8 of a coffee cup with lettering and if anything, the contrast seemed slightly better on the wide-open shot, which didn't make sense. I will spend more time with it to be sure, and to see whether it will work for me. Sorry, don't mean to hijack this thread! David Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideline Posted January 8, 2020 Share #11 Posted January 8, 2020 I purchased one of these 35AA lenses brand new and through luck more than anything I have kept it and used it as much as any lens I own. Elan's images reflect what I too see using mine, which I find to be quite sharp in the center yet with a background out of focus rendering which always reminded me a bit of my F1 Noctilux, with its at times swirly bokeh and out of focus rendering. To say that I am stunned and astonished as to what folks will now pay for this lens would be an understatement, yet compared to my F1.2 Noctilux, the 35AA for me really is a much more useable lens in this age of high MP digital bodies, plus the 1.2 Noct has a mind of its own as to how it renders plus the image quality actually worsens as you open up the aperture so between these two lenses the 35AA is far more usable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 9, 2020 Share #12 Posted January 9, 2020 Does have a very appealing "look" of its own, very different than the FLE and pre-FLE Asph...........but at $20k + a copy, I'd sooner get a Porsche 968 in good condition. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwF Posted January 9, 2020 Share #13 Posted January 9, 2020 Not to denigrate the AA in any way, but I am not seeing a big difference in the pre FLE and this lens. Would be fun to see images from both side by side...maybe this one sharper center? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmx_2 Posted January 9, 2020 Share #14 Posted January 9, 2020 Thanks for nice pictures! A quick question, does the AA also suffer from focus shift like the pre FLE did? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELAN Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted January 10, 2020 21 hours ago, mmx_2 said: A quick question, does the AA also suffer from focus shift like the pre FLE did? I did have an unusual number of slight back-focus shots (had to mount my 50 APO to verify the RF is perfectly calibrated) and I’m still not sure if it was me or the lens was slightly off. And, I didn’t shoot at all at the critical f/2 to f/3.4 apertures so I don’t know if it suffers from focus shift. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted January 10, 2020 Share #16 Posted January 10, 2020 Am 9.1.2020 um 10:36 schrieb mmx_2: Does the Aspherical also suffer from focus shift like the pre-FLE did? As far as I can tell, the Summilux-M 35 mm Aspherical does have some aperture-related focus shift—but only slightly more than the current Summilux-M 35 mm Asph with floating elements and significantly less than the previous 35 mm Asph without FLE. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELAN Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 11:36 AM, mmx_2 said: does the AA also suffer from focus shift like the pre FLE did? I did some focus tests today on a tripod against static subjects at distances of 0.8m to 1.8m. At f/1.4 the lens focused perfectly. As the aperture was stopped down the center of the plane of focus shifted backwards, but until f/2.4 the subject remained in focus at the front edge of the focus plane. From f/2.8 the subject was just in front of the focus plane. At f/4 the center of the focus plane was about 5cm behind a subject at 1.2m, which explains why at f/4 I see the far eye is in better focus than the close eye. I don’t know how this focus shift compares with the 11874 Asph focus shift. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted January 15, 2020 Share #18 Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Thanks a lot ELAN for sharing your shots and thoughts of the 35 AA ! Thought I'd share a few shots taken with the 35 AA ! First four taken with the SL 601: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 by JM__, on Flickr en Tocopilla by JM__, on Flickr Tres Marias by JM__, on Flickr Tocopilla, Chile by JM__, on Flickr Then on the M9: No ateliê de restauração by JM__, on Flickr Chapada dos Guimarães by JM__, on Flickr Chapada dos Guimarães by JM__, on Flickr on the M10: en Tocopilla by JM__, on Flickr en Tocopilla by JM__, on Flickr and on film - M2 + Ilford 50 PanF : Valle de la Luna by JM__, on Flickr Cheers ! JM. Edited January 15, 2020 by JMF Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 by JM__, on Flickr en Tocopilla by JM__, on Flickr Tres Marias by JM__, on Flickr Tocopilla, Chile by JM__, on Flickr Then on the M9: No ateliê de restauração by JM__, on Flickr Chapada dos Guimarães by JM__, on Flickr Chapada dos Guimarães by JM__, on Flickr on the M10: en Tocopilla by JM__, on Flickr en Tocopilla by JM__, on Flickr and on film - M2 + Ilford 50 PanF : Valle de la Luna by JM__, on Flickr Cheers ! JM. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=3891551'>More sharing options...
Del-Uks Posted January 15, 2020 Share #19 Posted January 15, 2020 Thanks for sharing JMF ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted January 16, 2020 Share #20 Posted January 16, 2020 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! exposicíon Raymond Depardon by JM__, on Flickr exposicíon Raymond Depardon by JM__, on Flickr exposicíon Raymond Depardon by JM__, on Flickr 35 AA on M10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! exposicíon Raymond Depardon by JM__, on Flickr exposicíon Raymond Depardon by JM__, on Flickr exposicíon Raymond Depardon by JM__, on Flickr 35 AA on M10 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=3892553'>More sharing options...
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