meerec Posted December 27, 2019 Share #41 Posted December 27, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 42 minutes ago, Jeff S said: Different strokes. I, too, had the perpetual license for years, happily paying for major upgrades until the final version. $120 bucks a year is peanuts to me for LR and PS combined, considering what I pay for photo gear and supplies overall. It’s also less than I used to spend regularly in film days on back end processing, which I consider as critical as the front end. If Adobe ever mandates cloud storage, I might quit as well, but for now it’s easily worth the small cost. Heck, I think $895 for ImagePrint, which I use in conjunction with LR, another value. Jeff @Jeff S I agree that if you actively use the latest LR+PS then CC combo is fine. Certainly value compared to what Leica charges for the iOS Fotos Pro 😬😤 absolutely zero value, so what they were thinking? And so far, the Print module in LR served me fine as el cheapo good enough RIP. How is ImagePrint compared to Mirage software available for Epson printers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 Hi meerec, Take a look here Colour problems in Sl 2 - reds are all magenta - raw on aperture. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
meerec Posted December 27, 2019 Share #42 Posted December 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, michali said: Agree, saves a lot of hassle down the line. I'm in the same position, I refuse to pay subscription fees having also previously purchased the perpetual LR licence for Mac. It's not about the $120- or so p.a. I use Iridient Developer, very pleased with the results. It's especially good for managing highlights and very useful for me, given the harsh lighting conditions I often shoot in. For quick minor tweaks and edits for clients, I purchased PS Elements and upgrade to the newer version every 2 years or so. I also find that Preview in Mac works well for slight tweaking when a client wants an image to quickly share while we're on a trip. For this reason I shoot DNG & Jpeg. I used Iridient Developer occasionally in the past for Fuji RAW files, it supposedly treated them better than any other post process software. UI was crap then so I quickly gave up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anickpick Posted December 27, 2019 Share #43 Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) vor 58 Minuten schrieb meerec: I used Iridient Developer occasionally in the past for Fuji RAW files, it supposedly treated them better than any other post process software. UI was crap then so I quickly gave up. I use Printao 8 for printing (Epson SC-P800) - it's user friendly, has fantastic color management and makes great prints. Edited December 27, 2019 by anickpick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted December 27, 2019 Share #44 Posted December 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, anickpick said: I use Printao 8 for printing (Epson SC-P800) - it's user friendly, has fantastic color management and makes great prints. Thanks, I should give that a try for printing off my Epson 3880. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted December 27, 2019 Share #45 Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, anickpick said: I use Printao 8 for printing (Epson SC-P800) - it's user friendly, has fantastic color management and makes great prints. Ditto ..... and far easier as it avoids having to fiddle with lots of printer settings in LR etc. for print sizes/borders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 27, 2019 Share #46 Posted December 27, 2019 Unfortunately this software has limited printer support. For instance my Epson XP 15000 is not supported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted December 27, 2019 Share #47 Posted December 27, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, jaapv said: Unfortunately this software has limited printer support. For instance my Epson XP 15000 is not supported. ...... and the fact it is printer specific and limited to a smallish number of mid/high end printers probably explains why it works so well. plus if you change printers (as I recently did) you need to buy a new licence. . good things rarely come without some drawbacks, unfortunately ..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 27, 2019 Share #48 Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, meerec said: How is ImagePrint compared to Mirage software available for Epson printers? I haven’t tested Mirage, but IP is worth the price even before its RIP features, particularly its superb custom profiles for virtually every paper, even for different lighting conditions as well as grey scale. And if they don’t have one, they’ll make it for free. That alone saved me about $1500 for my own profiling gear, let alone the saved time and effort. IP also removed me from the Epson/Adobe/Apple chain, which has shown over time to occasionally be problematic, particularly with new releases when one or another introduces unforeseen issues (such as when Apple screwed up color management when printing through the LR module on Epson). Everything just works the way it was intended. I don’t mess with any settings... just hit Print. Most importantly, the prints are superb, and one is always in softproof mode so that time and paper is not wasted. I wouldn’t switch, even though I’ll have to eventually pay a fee to update to the 64 bit version. Jeff Edited December 27, 2019 by Jeff S 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRKstudio Posted December 28, 2019 Share #49 Posted December 28, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 6:33 AM, Petrus61 said: Driving me nuts .... images taken with SL and M10 perfect but any image that has any red is terrible If you download images direct to an iPad the color problems are very apparent, but download direct to a MacBook with LR Classic and the colors are v much better. It’s the LR mobile (iPad and iPhone) that do not have the SL2 profile or a severely debilitating version of such, the LR Classic has the proper profile. Try putting 2 duplicate images on your collections via iPad and then MacBook, you will see what I mean. The colors are pretty solid for skin tones on LR Classic for OS X (where red colors are v magenta on the iPad). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted December 29, 2019 Share #50 Posted December 29, 2019 I updated LR but problem still there and quite strange. On library red color is ok when moving on development it turns this horrible magenta. Using a macbook pro but need still to update to Catalina final version. I will also try this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted December 29, 2019 Share #51 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Here are three samples. All processed in C1 20: Panasonic Lumix LX100. Colors are pretty accurate! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Here is the SL2 one. Magenta .... and the yellows are interpreted rather as white. Here is one out of the SL (601) ... colors are fine. Edited December 29, 2019 by Arrow 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Here is the SL2 one. Magenta .... and the yellows are interpreted rather as white. Here is one out of the SL (601) ... colors are fine. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304116-colour-problems-in-sl-2-reds-are-all-magenta-raw-on-aperture/?do=findComment&comment=3881339'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 29, 2019 Share #52 Posted December 29, 2019 Th cooler, less yellow tones are easily addressed if desired in PP, and established as a default/preset or using a different or custom profile. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted December 29, 2019 Share #53 Posted December 29, 2019 I found the problem...Dont know why but LR was switching profile from Adobe Color to embedded automatically when switching from Library to development. Setting again correct profile colors are ok. Don't know why this is happening . Hope this helps 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted December 29, 2019 Share #54 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) In C1 20 it works slightly better when changing the white balance from auto to daylight. Still the reds are off. I expected Phase One to get the profile for the SL2 by the time of issue of C1 20. How long did it take them to get the profile for the SL? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 29, 2019 by Arrow Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304116-colour-problems-in-sl-2-reds-are-all-magenta-raw-on-aperture/?do=findComment&comment=3881383'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted December 29, 2019 Share #55 Posted December 29, 2019 I don’t have any issues with reds and whites being off because I adjust the yellow, reds, and temperature slider in LR if needed. 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted December 29, 2019 Share #56 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Luca said: I found the problem...Dont know why but LR was switching profile from Adobe Color to embedded automatically when switching from Library to development. Setting again correct profile colors are ok. Don't know why this is happening . Hope this helps How do you see/set embedded profile in latest Lightroom Classic (9.1) and in which panel do you see the profile setting? If you see it in Calibration panel then you have an old version of LR. Edited December 29, 2019 by SrMi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted December 29, 2019 Share #57 Posted December 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, Chaemono said: I don’t have any issues with reds and whites being off because I adjust the yellow, reds, and temperature slider in LR if needed. 😁 Do you have the newest LR version? I get the same funny colors in LR 6.14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted December 29, 2019 Share #58 Posted December 29, 2019 I have latest version 9.1 Funny things is that this change is only happening with SL2 files. With Q2 or SL file profile is not changing when you switch from library to development. Not a big issue but quite strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted December 29, 2019 Share #59 Posted December 29, 2019 vor 38 Minuten schrieb Arrow: Do you have the newest LR version? I get the same funny colors in LR 6.14. I have the latest LR version. If anything the magenta is too red with the Adobe Color profile. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted December 29, 2019 Share #60 Posted December 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, Luca said: I have latest version 9.1 Funny things is that this change is only happening with SL2 files. With Q2 or SL file profile is not changing when you switch from library to development. Not a big issue but quite strange. You need to use the current Process Version (5) in LR. Go to Calibration panel and switch to Process Version 5. You will not see Embedded profile with the latest process version any more and hopefully no switching will occur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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