johnbuckley Posted November 8, 2019 Share #1 Posted November 8, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I’m reading everything - Jono’s write up (great, natch), the Verge, etc. Until we have the camera in hand, we read. Reading Sean Reid, I came across a sentence that filled me with joy. He says that you can shoot with either a mechanical or electronic shutter - or a hybrid where after 1/8000th it uses the latter. For those of us who at times like shooting wide open in daylight, that seems ingenious. I don’t know whether this is something other cameras have, but given both fast SL lenses like the 50 Summilux and all the fast M lenses, what a delight this seems to be, and what good thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted November 8, 2019 Share #2 Posted November 8, 2019 It would be surprising if the SL2 would not have this feature. Not only the Q and CL, a whole range of Panasonic cameras can function this way, as do multiple other brands. I wonder whether the camera has post-focus. That is a great tool for focus stacking, very useful for landscape and macro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted November 8, 2019 Share #3 Posted November 8, 2019 Yes, as long as you know it's limitations, e-shutters work quite well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted November 8, 2019 Share #4 Posted November 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, johnbuckley said: you can shoot with either a mechanical or electronic shutter - or a hybrid where after 1/8000th it uses the latter. the SL1 has that option too? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/303248-hybrid-mechanicalelectronic-shutter/?do=findComment&comment=3850343'>More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted November 8, 2019 Good lord, all this time I could have done this with the SL... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted November 8, 2019 Share #6 Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, frame-it said: the SL1 has that option too? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1/6000 should perhaps be 1/16000 sec? Not much of an extension otherwise. Edited November 8, 2019 by evikne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted November 8, 2019 Share #7 Posted November 8, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, evikne said: 1/6000 should perhaps be 1/16000 sec? Not much of an extension otherwise. Or maybe higher still? The TL2 goes to 1/40,000 in hybrid mode... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted November 8, 2019 Share #8 Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, johnbuckley said: Good lord, all this time I could have done this with the SL... Yes, just don't use it under artificial lighting or against moving subjects. Otherwise you're good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 8, 2019 Share #9 Posted November 8, 2019 The technical specification mentions mechanical shutter 30 min to 1/8000 and electronic shutter: 1s to 1/40000. There is no mention of the EFC shutter. S1R and most other mirrorless cameras must use the EFC shutter to prevent blur. SL (601) did not have an EFC shutter either. Does anybody know why Leica SL/SL2 does not need EFC shutter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 8, 2019 Share #10 Posted November 8, 2019 According to this article EFCS does not offer a decisive advantage on EVF cameras (no mirror slap to disturb the next shot) https://photographylife.com/mechanical-electronic-shutter-efcs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted November 8, 2019 Share #11 Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Mr.Q said: Yes, just don't use it under artificial lighting or against moving subjects. Otherwise you're good. That advice is too broad: - Only some artificial lighting gives problems: that in which the brightness is controlled directly by the mains frequency. Anything which has adequate current buffering (which includes all older incandescent lighting and a lot of modern lighting) will be fine. In practice the only way to tell is take a few shots and check for brightness/colour banding. - Only fast moving subjects have this problem badly (golf swings, fast arm movements, runners), but it tails off as the subject slows down. Normal walking and similar human activity are not normally a problem. I use the electronic shutter a lot for theatre and musical performances. Movement is rarely a problem; banding sometimes is. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted November 8, 2019 Share #12 Posted November 8, 2019 Agree that my post was too broad, thanks for elaborating. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 8, 2019 Share #13 Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, jaapv said: According to this article EFCS does not offer a decisive advantage on EVF cameras (no mirror slap to disturb the next shot) https://photographylife.com/mechanical-electronic-shutter-efcs That article is misleading. EFCS is not needed for DSLRs as it fixes shutter shock, not mirror slap. Sony A7, Nikon Z, Fuji they all need EFCS (if available) to work optimally. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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