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I want to use off camera flash on the Q, hopefully with the gear i've got but I am nervous of frying the electronics by using the wrong kit. 

I'm hoping to use my Godox V1 which has an inbuilt receiver and already have godox X1T triggers for Sony and Fujifilm.

I know that the same trigger in Nikon guise will work in single pin mode.

So, my question is, am I safe to try my sony or fujifilm trigger in single pin mode on the Q??? or should I buy another (nikon) trigger just for the Q

TIA

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Camera damage with flashes is, AFAIK, an old issue associated with old flashes (like decades ago) that had a high trigger voltage. Modern flashes use much lower and safer voltages which don't cause problems.

I have never heard of damage caused by using the wrong modern flash - just that it won't work if they are incompatible. I believe all flashes use a central trigger contact, but the branded varieties have different extra contacts for communication of settings etc. I suspect that cameras were/are too dumb to ignore these incompatible contacts, and so got confused and wouldn't work. Certainly I had to use Pocketwizards in Nikon flavour on my M240 - the Canon ones wouldn't work. For the Godox flashes/triggers on my SL I tested the Canon flavour and they worked. I have heard that others are successfully using Nikon versions. It is possible that the latest cameras are better at ignoring irrelevant signals from the various extra contacts.

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4 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Camera damage with flashes is, AFAIK, an old issue associated with old flashes (like decades ago) that had a high trigger voltage. Modern flashes use much lower and safer voltages which don't cause problems.

I have never heard of damage caused by using the wrong modern flash - just that it won't work if they are incompatible. I believe all flashes use a central trigger contact, but the branded varieties have different extra contacts for communication of settings etc. I suspect that cameras were/are too dumb to ignore these incompatible contacts, and so got confused and wouldn't work. Certainly I had to use Pocketwizards in Nikon flavour on my M240 - the Canon ones wouldn't work. For the Godox flashes/triggers on my SL I tested the Canon flavour and they worked. I have heard that others are successfully using Nikon versions. It is possible that the latest cameras are better at ignoring irrelevant signals from the various extra contacts.

Brilliant - it works (fujifilm trigger ) - thanks v much

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6 hours ago, PaulJohn said:

I have Sony and Fujifilm flash.

how did you find out if the camera would not be damaged?

I just tried it. The center pin just grounds the center contact when initiating a flash. Old flashes used high voltage on some contacts. That’s no longer the case with any modern flashes to the best of my knowledge. I’ve never had a problem other than sometimes different flashes fit slightly differently in the hot shoe. The Canon is a little snug because they have a rubber trim piece in the rear. It still is not a problem. I’m very fond of using my Canon Ring flash on the Q/Q2 for macro photography. It works great. 

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That ancient Metz flash with a 600+ volt trigger voltage might cause issues.   Anything modern?  I don't think so.   I don't recall if I've seen a spec for the Q/Q2. 

See http://dpanswers.com/roztr/volt_finder.php for a list of flashes and their trigger voltages.  Notice that most modern flashes have trigger voltages in the 4V to 6V range.

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I can’t get my Sony flavor Profoto A1X to fire on my Q2 nor SL2.  Are there some settings you use on the Q2 and/or Canon flashes to make them work on the Leica devices?  
 

I set the flash to manual and set the cameras to fire with 1st curtain, however no luck! 
 

any help would be much appreciated, I just switched from Sony A7r4 to Leica SL2 and would love to use the Profoto A1X.  It’s an incredible flash.  

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19 hours ago, PaulJohn said:

No it didn't. It has single pin mode but the fit is too tight. I managed to get it on but maybe the pin was not over the contact.

What is single pin mode? My profoto will fit on the SL2 but I can’t get it to fire... I’m wondering how to get the thing to fire and/or get another flash that will work on the SL2.  I have an SF40, but much is to be desired.  
 

I want to use a Godox V1, but need to know which to get wether Nikon or canon or Fuji or Panasonic version.  Thanks!

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7 minutes ago, NRKstudio said:

What is single pin mode? My profoto will fit on the SL2 but I can’t get it to fire... I’m wondering how to get the thing to fire and/or get another flash that will work on the SL2.  I have an SF40, but much is to be desired.  
 

I want to use a Godox V1, but need to know which to get wether Nikon or canon or Fuji or Panasonic version.  Thanks!

The V1 version is not relevant. It's the trigger version that is important.

Single pin refers the central pin that carries the fire signal. Everything else is switched off. This means that you don't get TTL and will need to set the flash power manually.

I know that the Fuji works on the Q and I have heard that the Nikon trigger works too.

Don't know about SL2. I would guess it's flash is the same as the Q.

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22 hours ago, PaulJohn said:

The V1 version is not relevant. It's the trigger version that is important.

Single pin refers the central pin that carries the fire signal. Everything else is switched off. This means that you don't get TTL and will need to set the flash power manually.

I know that the Fuji works on the Q and I have heard that the Nikon trigger works too.

Don't know about SL2. I would guess it's flash is the same as the Q.

Nice, thanks.  I’ll get the Nikon version of the V1.  By trigger, do you mean the Nikon version of the V1 on camera flash or the Nikon version of the remote trigger radio tool  thing? 

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7 hours ago, NRKstudio said:

Nice, thanks.  I’ll get the Nikon version of the V1.  By trigger, do you mean the Nikon version of the V1 on camera flash or the Nikon version of the remote trigger radio tool  thing? 

The Nikon version of the remote trigger.  I have the Sony V1 which works with my Sony and Fuji triggers. I don’t know if the V1 works with my Q as an on camera flash but I have my SF40 for that anyway.

i wish I had bought the x-pro trigger instead of the x1t trigger as it covers the shutter speed dial

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Hi Guys,

I have a Leica Q and wld like to shoot flash off camera. Is it worth getting the sf40 and a trigger or wld a godox flash and trigger be a better option? What trigger wld work best with the sf40? I already have a canon 600 speedlite, is there a compatible trigger that cld work with that. Any recommendations on suitable triggers/receivers that are not too bulky wld be great.

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

Charlie

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All depends on if you want TTL or not.  
 

if you are okay with manual flash control, I recommend picking up some Godox lights that support the X wireless system along with a current Nikon type XPro-N trigger for the camera.  If you can wait, Godox will soon release an XPro II L trigger for Leicas that supports HSS and TTL.  No word on if they will release Leica compatible flashes.  There should be no problems mixing the Nikon type Godox flashes with a Leica trigger.  The only negative is that if you wanted to use the flash on camera you’d need to set it manually.  I personally prefer to manually control my flash, so either solution would work for me. 
 

Edit: if you have Canon cameras you also want to use the flashes with, swap the Nikon units for Canon-compatible ones. Just make sure they all support X wireless mode. 

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10 hours ago, Anakronox said:

All depends on if you want TTL or not.  
 

if you are okay with manual flash control, I recommend picking up some Godox lights that support the X wireless system along with a current Nikon type XPro-N trigger for the camera.  If you can wait, Godox will soon release an XPro II L trigger for Leicas that supports HSS and TTL.  No word on if they will release Leica compatible flashes.  There should be no problems mixing the Nikon type Godox flashes with a Leica trigger.  The only negative is that if you wanted to use the flash on camera you’d need to set it manually.  I personally prefer to manually control my flash, so either solution would work for me. 
 

Edit: if you have Canon cameras you also want to use the flashes with, swap the Nikon units for Canon-compatible ones. Just make sure they all support X wireless mode. 

Thank you, that’s very helpful and very kind of you to take the time! 🙏

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