colonel Posted August 28, 2019 Share #221 Â Posted August 28, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica is running a fast professional camera. Not two models like other companies (or will they next month?) who have gone 24mp and 45-47-61 So a sensible upgrade of pixels is more desired I get that there are people who want 45mp and dont care so much about speed, but being a slower hires camera is not the raison d'etre of the SL 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tom0511 Posted August 28, 2019 Share #222  Posted August 28, 2019 vor 14 Minuten schrieb mmradman: While this forum agonise over marginal gain of one sensor over the other, some just a rumour, i have sold my SL601 and use camera with 45.7Mp BSI sensor which works pretty well with M lenses plus has very nice range of native AF lenses. Z7 is a small and lightweight ergonomic body, IBIS, user selectable LENR, affordable and adoptable to pretty much any lens except L mount, a worthwhile upgrade i am happy with - i have upgraded to "SL2" beater already. By the way, anyone in L camp waiting for native mount long AF prime or zoom, longer than 280mm good luck with that one. Personally I have very little use for anything longer than 135mm but having access to 750g 300mm f4 and 1.5kg 500mm f5.6 primes both capable of AF with 1.4 TC make me consider trying long telephoto. If you prefer Nikon color and lenses and user interface, if you are happy with one sd card slot and if you can live with some compromises when using M lenses on the body - probably a good choice. But what does this have to do with this thread? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 28, 2019 Share #223  Posted August 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, tom0511 said: If you prefer Nikon color and lenses and user interface, if you are happy with one sd card slot and if you can live with some compromises when using M lenses on the body - probably a good choice. But what does this have to do with this thread? Boom! BTW I had a Z6. Great camera. Sold it for a SL. The rest is history  1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 28, 2019 Share #224  Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, colonel said: Leica is running a fast professional camera. Not two models like other companies (or will they next month?) who have gone 24mp and 45-47-61 So a sensible upgrade of pixels is more desired I get that there are people who want 45mp and dont care so much about speed, but being a slower hires camera is not the raison d'etre of the SL Fast professional camera...that sounds like a quote form Leica Marketing at the time of launch. Fast professional cameras are Canon 1DX and Nikon D5 of this world, if anything Sony A9 joined the the category - all three with no more than 24Mp. I am struggling to see working photographer especially one needing fast long prime covering sport, political, outdoor, indoor event and brandishing SL, i have seen M cameras in the wild but not SLs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 28, 2019 Share #225  Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, mmradman said: Fast professional camera...that sounds like a quote form Leica Marketing at the time of launch. Fast professional cameras are Canon 1DX and Nikon D5 of this world, if anything Sony A9 joined the the category - all three with no more than 24Mp. I am struggling to see working photographer especially one needing fast long prime covering sport, political, outdoor, indoor event and brandishing SL, i have seen M cameras in the wild but not SLs. I have seen professional photographers using SL It is designed as a professional FF mirrorless. Leica would design something lighter, weaker and cheaper (especially lenses) if it was targeting more of a consumer model (Leica consumer of course). Something like the CL (I know its APS-C but the design and construction philosophy is completely different). Most won't, due to cost of course, and availability of lenses, but Leica isn't in it for the mass appeal. The fact that well healed enthusiasts buy it, like many buy the D5 and A9, is great and expected  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 28, 2019 Share #226  Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, tom0511 said: If you prefer Nikon color and lenses and user interface, if you are happy with one sd card slot and if you can live with some compromises when using M lenses on the body - probably a good choice. But what does this have to do with this thread? Nothing really to do with this thread but sensor debate. Expectation of 36Mp BSI sensor made me react as higher Mp BSI full frame sensors are already in use. I liked SL user interface but like Z7 interface even more, we are talking similar number of buttons and menu shortcuts to key functions is excellent. Colours are good, native lenses are good, adopted lenses work well. RAW file can be saved as lossless compressed, same size as SL RAW about 40Mb. Z6/7 have only one card slo, it is nor SD but XQD. Big negative of XQD it is expensive but more robust than SD, actually starting to like it. I never used more than one card even in 2 card slot SL which has, from memory, SD-II and SD-I slots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 28, 2019 Share #227  Posted August 28, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Whatever the SL2 turns out to be, I am sure it will work very well with my new 7Artisans 75mm/f1.25 lens. Given that I have saved over 95% of the purchase price of a 75 Noctilux with the £400 7Artisans, I can now afford an SL2 😀 Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 28, 2019 Share #228  Posted August 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, colonel said: I have seen professional photographers using SL It is designed as a professional FF mirrorless. Leica would design something lighter, weaker and cheaper (especially lenses) if it was targeting more of a consumer model (Leica consumer of course). Something like the CL (I know its APS-C but the design and construction philosophy is completely different). Most won't, due to cost of course, and availability of lenses, but Leica isn't in it for the mass appeal. The fact that well healed enthusiasts buy it, like many buy the D5 and A9, is great and expected  I am not doubting that SL was designed with professional needs in mind but with one AF zoom at launch and adaptors for lot of legacy and exceptional M & R lenses it was never going to sweep majority of working photographers off their feet. Only professional work i can think of is Jono's pink tractor race, no Football World Cup, no Olympic Games, no scrum in front of the Downing Street. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 28, 2019 Share #229  Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, wlaidlaw said: Whatever the SL2 turns out to be, I am sure it will work very well with my new 7Artisans 75mm/f1.25 lens. Given that I have saved over 95% of the purchase price of a 75 Noctilux with the £400 7Artisans, I can now afford an SL2 😀 Wilson Dr K would love you if you bought Noctilux and SL2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 28, 2019 Share #230  Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mmradman said: I am not doubting that SL was designed with professional needs in mind but with one AF zoom at launch and adaptors for lot of legacy and exceptional M & R lenses it was never going to sweep majority of working photographers off their feet. Only professional work i can think of is Jono's pink tractor race, no Football World Cup, no Olympic Games, no scrum in front of the Downing Street. yes, lens selection is a hold back. Leica are going to announce a new SL lens roadmap next month so that will be interesting ... the whole thing also has a shot in the arm from Sigma and Panasonic over the next few years. most professionals do event photography BTW  Edited August 28, 2019 by colonel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted August 28, 2019 Share #231  Posted August 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, mmradman said: I liked SL user interface but like Z7 interface even more, we are talking similar number of buttons and menu shortcuts to key functions is excellent. I apologize for aiding and abetting this thread drift, but I really don't buy this statement. Every time I try to convince myself to return to Nikon and pick up the Z7, I look through the viewfinder and think this is what a Boeing pilot must see. Yes, the best UI short of a Leica, but it is way, way short, IMO. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 28, 2019 Share #232  Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, bags27 said: I apologize for aiding and abetting this thread drift, but I really don't buy this statement. Every time I try to convince myself to return to Nikon and pick up the Z7, I look through the viewfinder and think this is what a Boeing pilot must see. Yes, the best UI short of a Leica, but it is way, way short, IMO. At the time i was considering to drop SL and purchase Z i had a chance to examine S1R with native lenses. Despite voices stating here the new SL2 will be less brutal than the original SL, including interview with Dr K,  all i can see is SL2 as rebdged S1R. As brilliant as SL and its native lenses are Leica supremacy is the M system.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 28, 2019 Share #233  Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) vor 4 Minuten schrieb mmradman: ...,  all i can see is SL2 as rebdged S1R. Now you must be joking. You talk to Steve Huff’s ghosts, too? Edited August 28, 2019 by Chaemono Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted August 28, 2019 Share #234 Â Posted August 28, 2019 This is all 200 is vapor talk, is not it. Or has somebody had the SL2 in his hands already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share #235  Posted August 28, 2019 SL is nothing like a rebadge S1. At least it should be the other way around. SL is way older than S1-S1R-S1H trio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 28, 2019 Share #236  Posted August 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, jankap said: This is all 200 is vapor talk, is not it. Or has somebody had the SL2 in his hands already? We know of at least one prime suspect but he is as usual under NDA. As somebody stated people don't watch TV nowadays and politics is off-limit here, what else to discuss... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 28, 2019 Share #237  Posted August 28, 2019 The thread is about the sensor, not how the SL2 feels in one’s hands. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted August 28, 2019 Share #238  Posted August 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chaemono said: Now you must be joking. You talk to Steve Huff’s ghosts, too? You are being offensive. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 28, 2019 Share #239  Posted August 28, 2019 I played with a Nikon Z7 recently, and I thought its EVF, despite its lower resolution compared to the SL EVF, was the more natural viewing experience.  I could have been influenced, however, by the flat overcast sky lighting that day.  If not, it brings me to the point that sometimes it’s not all about resolution... not for an EVF, not for a sensor... it’s about the ultimate quality obtained, which often depends on other design and implementation considerations as well as user preferences.  There are specs, and then there are cameras. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted August 28, 2019 Share #240  Posted August 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, mmradman said: We know of at least one prime suspect but he is as usual under NDA. As somebody stated people don't watch TV nowadays and politics is off-limit here, what else to discuss... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Cats! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Cats! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/300621-rumors-sl2-with-36mp-sensor-only/?do=findComment&comment=3808068'>More sharing options...
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