Smogg Posted August 1, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 1, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Firmware Update 1.1 DNG files recording DNG files recorded in ‘Continuous Super Speed’ mode are now readable in Adobe products. Burst Shooting Mode + attached flash In 'Burst Shooting Mode' (H/M/L) the attached flash is now triggered more than once (depending on the power of the flash). Download of images via Leica FOTOS Stabilized image download via Leica FOTOS in combination with ‘Remote-Wake up’ as well as display of aperture values after wake up. Interval shooting in Drive Mode In ‘JPG´s only’ setting now images can be taken with 1s ‘Interval' continuously without losing frames. Also the performance with 'DNG + JPG' has been improved. REMARK: Due to general SD-card writing time please use an interval time of longer than 2 sec. in order to secure that all images (DNG + JPEG) will be saved. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smogg Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted August 1, 2019 Leica does not listen to customers, useless update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Guy Posted August 1, 2019 Share #3 Posted August 1, 2019 46 minutes ago, Smogg said: Leica does not listen to customers, useless update Not useless, just underwhelming. I’ll enjoy the added flashes with continuous shooting. Disappointed over not being able to move and zoom the focus point in manual. Leica should be a synonym for patience. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnikiMu Posted August 1, 2019 Share #4 Posted August 1, 2019 Done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmith Posted August 1, 2019 Share #5 Posted August 1, 2019 No, useless was correct. They're just buying time. Next firmware, Christmas 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timwright Posted August 1, 2019 Share #6 Posted August 1, 2019 As with most software the first couple of updates generally deal with bugs. Enhancements come later. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted August 1, 2019 Share #7 Posted August 1, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I believe this is an emergency update fixing the recently widely reported DNG file corruption when shooting in 'Continuous Super Speed'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmith Posted August 2, 2019 Share #8 Posted August 2, 2019 Yes, I know. Emergency for the 20 frames per second with the 15 frame buffer 😜 Emergency would be to fix the rear AF button to the specs of the 2015 Q1 instead of wasting time with a ridiculous poll! Its safe to say with time wasting polls are what are useless. The way Nikon and Canon (and Q1 since 2015)have done it for the last 20 plus years is the extremely useful implementation of the rear AF button!!! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overpowered by Funk Posted August 2, 2019 Share #9 Posted August 2, 2019 You guys are a tough crowd. The Q2 has been out FIVE months and Leica just pushed out a firmware update. I've never seen a camera company act so quickly to update their software. Nikon? Hell to the f**k no. And don't get me started on how crappy their files are, especially on their "pro" bodies. FujiFilm? I could see them do it, but they haven't to my knowledge. Canon? Meh … the 5D Mark III still has underwhelming focus issues SEVEN years after its release. I think we need to give Leica a little credit for this effort. Seriously. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matsaly Posted August 2, 2019 Share #10 Posted August 2, 2019 I don't. 2 minutes ago, Overpowered by Funk said: You guys are a tough crowd. The Q2 has been out FIVE months and Leica just pushed out a firmware update. I've never seen a camera company act so quickly to update their software. I think we need to give Leica a little credit for this effort. Seriously. I don't. For me it's back to my mantra that Leica charges a premium price for their products and purchasers have every right to expect a camera that functions properly out of the box period. This DNG file corruption issue doesn't affect me personally but that's immaterial. Leica specifies a performance specification and bona fide purchasers who relied upon the specification or feature have every legal right to demand the product performs as specified. I get that "user requests" and suggestions will develop over time and Wetzlar may/may not choose to implement those requests. But to gloss over the fact that the Q2 didn't meet specifications upon release is a disservice to its end users. ..Don't get me started on the laughable Fotos implementation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overpowered by Funk Posted August 2, 2019 Share #11 Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matsaly said: I don't. I don't. For me it's back to my mantra that Leica charges a premium price for their products and purchasers have every right to expect a camera that functions properly out of the box period. This DNG file corruption issue doesn't affect me personally but that's immaterial. Leica specifies a performance specification and bona fide purchasers who relied upon the specification or feature have every legal right to demand the product performs as specified. I get that "user requests" and suggestions will develop over time and Wetzlar may/may not choose to implement those requests. But to gloss over the fact that the Q2 didn't meet specifications upon release is a disservice to its end users. ..Don't get me started on the laughable Fotos implementation. I've worked with large tech companies (read household names we all know) and understand there are challenges that exist. Not all issues can be foreseen prior to launch, and all companies face obstacles, which is the nature of the tech industry. Yes, Leica charges a premium, but to suggest that everything must be perfect on day one is unrealistic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matsaly Posted August 2, 2019 Share #12 Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Overpowered by Funk said: Yes, Leica charges a premium, but to suggest that everything must be perfect on day one is unrealistic. You are a thoughtful contributor to this forum OBF but I disagree. Notice that I said "perform to spec" not "Perfect". I expect that Leica (or any manufacturer ) must have some testing protocols to ensure that a product meets listed specifications. As regards all the "wish list" items, (ex: back button focus, etc) those features were not specified in the sales adverts or manufacturer literature so I do not expect them to be implemented in a timely manner (if at all). One can wish... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 2, 2019 Share #13 Posted August 2, 2019 It is not unrealistic to ask a firmware developer to try the features before release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexL Posted August 2, 2019 Share #14 Posted August 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Overpowered by Funk said: You guys are a tough crowd.. I think we need to give Leica a little credit for this effort. Seriously. I have agree with OBF... while this update does nothing to address any of my gripes - video on implementation - desired 24MP raw - poor face detect - easy focus centering for EVF only shooters The quick initial firmware push does show commitment to product improvement. Leaving a Sony RX1RM2 which has never ever had a firmware update, I can appreciate the fact there was an update all be a small one. I have also worked with developers and test teams. Sorry to burst bubbles but something always gets missed. The facts are that no tester is as good as the actual customer at finding an issue or at finding a way to misuse a product. Google, MS and Apple all push regular software updates and they are the best at development. The question for most teams becomes what is the severity of the miss. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnikiMu Posted August 2, 2019 Share #15 Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Overpowered by Funk said: I've worked with large tech companies (read household names we all know) and understand there are challenges that exist. Not all issues can be foreseen prior to launch, and all companies face obstacles, which is the nature of the tech industry. Yes, Leica charges a premium, but to suggest that everything must be perfect on day one is unrealistic. Sold with specs! What about testing ? It is a normal procedure! I am not here to be a beta tester! If I am, I have the product free of charge! Edited August 2, 2019 by AnikiMu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, AnikiMu said: What about testing ? Nobody tested continuous high speed because it would never have occurred to Leica’s developers that someone would use this feature with such a small buffer))) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted August 2, 2019 Share #17 Posted August 2, 2019 Bugs happen. They just do. Even with a good testing program. And, for whatever reason, this one does not affect all users and all cards and all Adobe products. I know because I have had no problems shooting a burst of images at 20fps, importing them into Lightroom Mobile CC via a dongle onto my iPad, and using them. For me, this is actually a fairly common tool for reducing noise in high ISO shots with static subjects, so i’ve done it maybe half a dozen times so far. Who knows what combination of cards, readers, versions of Lightroom/Photoshop were tried prior to release. I wouldn’t be so quick to judge—even if this particular bug caused the Q2 to “not meet specification”. A bug was reported, investigated, and addressed. A patch was released. That is as it should be and all too often isn’t. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnikiMu Posted August 2, 2019 Share #18 Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jared said: Bugs happen. They just do. Even with a good testing program. And, for whatever reason, this one does not affect all users and all cards and all Adobe products. I know because I have had no problems shooting a burst of images at 20fps, importing them into Lightroom Mobile CC via a dongle onto my iPad, and using them. For me, this is actually a fairly common tool for reducing noise in high ISO shots with static subjects, so i’ve done it maybe half a dozen times so far. Who knows what combination of cards, readers, versions of Lightroom/Photoshop were tried prior to release. I wouldn’t be so quick to judge—even if this particular bug caused the Q2 to “not meet specification”. A bug was reported, investigated, and addressed. A patch was released. That is as it should be and all too often isn’t. Edited August 2, 2019 by AnikiMu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overpowered by Funk Posted August 2, 2019 Share #19 Posted August 2, 2019 13 hours ago, Matsaly said: You are a thoughtful contributor to this forum OBF but I disagree. Notice that I said "perform to spec" not "Perfect". I expect that Leica (or any manufacturer ) must have some testing protocols to ensure that a product meets listed specifications. As regards all the "wish list" items, (ex: back button focus, etc) those features were not specified in the sales adverts or manufacturer literature so I do not expect them to be implemented in a timely manner (if at all). One can wish... Fair enough. As DexL says above, things get missed as a product is developed, tested and launched. I give Leica credit for their initiative on this issue, and suspect there will be others down the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overpowered by Funk Posted August 2, 2019 Share #20 Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, AnikiMu said: Sold with specs! What about testing ? It is a normal procedure! I am not here to be a beta tester! If I am, I have the product free of charge! When products are tested things get missed because they cannot account for every possible situation users will put the product through. That doesn't make us beta testers. Edited August 2, 2019 by Overpowered by Funk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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