tom0511 Posted February 25, 2019 Share #1 Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I dont know if its ok to post here, if not please delete. I think there is an increasing interest in film again. The S lenses render beautiful, the camera has a great optical viewfinder, why not give us a film S body? If the image circle is not large enough for 645, just crop it to 30x45. I know its an exotic request, but I believe if Leica makes digital camera without display, and MM, athey also could make a film S. I would buy it. Opinions? Edited February 25, 2019 by tom0511 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John McMaster Posted February 25, 2019 Share #2 Posted February 25, 2019 Why? If you are happy with film, it is far cheaper to get a Hasselblad V or Mamiya 67 (etc) kit together than an S one plus they all give larger negs/transparencies..... john Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaubauu2009 Posted February 26, 2019 Share #3 Posted February 26, 2019 no point really. It has a slightly larger negative than 135, and I would rather just use Pentax 67ii or a hasselblad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted February 26, 2019 Share #4 Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Maybe a better use of resources >> make a 64mp monochrome S3 with double the memory buffer, PDAF on sensor, faster Dual maestro processors, dual UHS-II slots & add the 5.++MP EVF. will probably Never happen though Edited February 26, 2019 by frame-it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowBelly Posted February 26, 2019 Share #5 Posted February 26, 2019 I have a few strange formats and a camera that uses unperforated 35mm film this would work perfectly and you could achieve the full image size. If you make this idea please let me have a working prototype 🤞🥰 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaubauu2009 Posted February 26, 2019 Share #6 Posted February 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, frame-it said: Maybe a better use of resources >> make a 64mp monochrome S3 with double the memory buffer, PDAF on sensor, faster Dual maestro processors, dual UHS-II slots & add the 5.++MP EVF. will probably Never happen though PDAF on sensor, now that will solve everything!!! hahaha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted February 26, 2019 Share #7 Posted February 26, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I agree that it is a little weird, but I would love this too. There is no comparison in handling to any other MF camera...I think if it could cover 645, which it probably cannot, it would be fantastic. But it is such a hard sell in 2019 (the S digital is hard enough...), that I can´t imagine it happening. We can dream though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted February 26, 2019 Share #8 Posted February 26, 2019 If someone makes an AF adapter to use the S lenses on other than SL Leica cameras, than it will be interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted February 26, 2019 Share #9 Posted February 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, ynp said: If someone makes an AF adapter to use the S lenses on other than SL Leica cameras, than it will be interesting. but what about the loads of Leica in-camera corrections for their lenses? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted February 26, 2019 Share #10 Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, frame-it said: but what about the loads of Leica in-camera corrections for their lenses? Perhaps the (most) interesting part... ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted February 26, 2019 Share #11 Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, helged said: Perhaps the (most) interesting part... ? or shocking 😀 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted February 26, 2019 Share #12 Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, frame-it said: but what about the loads of Leica in-camera corrections for their lenses? I have no idea about the things done in-camera, to be honest. And I am very curious to see how the S lenses behave on other digital and film cameras. I even approached several adapter manufacturers with the request to build the S-to-GFX AF adapter, nobody was interested. Edited February 26, 2019 by ynp Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted February 26, 2019 Share #13 Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ynp said: I have no idea about the things done in-camera, to be honest. yep....tricky discussion..i seem to remember a cool photographer from LA who was torn apart on this forum because he talked about the SL-50 lux and its "real' output before the in-camera corrections on his blog and here Edited February 26, 2019 by frame-it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted February 26, 2019 Share #14 Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) ......am sure the S3 would be amazing as pure monochrome https://www.flickr.com/photos/joshhimes/sets/72157677731983338 Edited February 26, 2019 by frame-it 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted February 26, 2019 Share #15 Posted February 26, 2019 My friend is using his Hasselblad HCD lenses on his GFX50S and he says that he’s surprised how well the wide angle HCD lenses work on the Fuji, although it’s known that they need some software corrections. I don’t mind to be pleasantly surprised by Leica. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted February 26, 2019 Share #16 Posted February 26, 2019 As far as I understood it, the S lenses do not have software corrections. That was part of Leica's marketing at the time...I know that for my uses, I mostly keep the software corrections off in lightroom, as I found they do more harm than good in most of the lenses (especially the 120...the distortion is so low that "correcting" it just makes the image very slightly softer. I have also found that the CA reduction can cause problems around exposed lights which are totally absent when there is no correction). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted February 26, 2019 Share #17 Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Stuart Richardson said: As far as I understood it, the S lenses do not have software corrections. That was part of Leica's marketing at the time...I know that for my uses, I mostly keep the software corrections off in lightroom, as I found they do more harm than good in most of the lenses (especially the 120...the distortion is so low that "correcting" it just makes the image very slightly softer. I have also found that the CA reduction can cause problems around exposed lights which are totally absent when there is no correction). +1 (and very good points; there are normally downsides with 3rd party corrections). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted February 27, 2019 Am 25.2.2019 um 22:30 schrieb John McMaster: Why? If you are happy with film, it is far cheaper to get a Hasselblad V or Mamiya 67 (etc) kit together than an S one plus they all give larger negs/transparencies..... john Yes, but I like AF and therefore got myself a Hy6 with 2 lenses for a good price. But I think the S lenses are so good and the body handles so nice, and while its not that much bigger than 35mm (and there is no 35mm AF camera from Leica) - why not? I am sure it would be a great "tool" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted August 19, 2019 Share #19 Posted August 19, 2019 Some months after this thread was started the idea of using our S lenses on an analog film camera came up again and so I have been doing some - not too bright I’m afraid - thinking about this because I really like the idea as do some others on this board. Warning: what follows is all wild speculation on my part 🙂 So basically we just need a light-tight box and a mechanism to insert and transport roll film - of which we'd waste quite a lot of real estate - and then we would need a Leica S mount on this light-tight box and we'd be good to go. Of course there would be no way to measure the light, control exposure and composition and check focus, which is why we would need separate light- and distance-meters and luckily we have a distance window on our S lenses. Not extremely accurate, but you know, it’s just low-res film anyway (just kidding) Composition could be checked by something like a Sony RX0 that we could glue on top of the camera. Of course we’d still need some electronics to control the shutter and and the aperture on the lens ... Some different options: - My best plan: get Sony to make 30 x 45 mm translucent mirror reflecting 0,5-0,75 stops of light to a 5-10 MP sensor that would give us all the information we need in an electronic viewfinder, of course with a fast processor on board the camera to control on sensor PDAF, exposure and all that. We could use the basic S camera design for this and place the translucent mirror where the flapping mirror is now. - Another route and probably the easiest way would be to get someone to make an adapter for the Minolta or CaNikon mount film-DSLRs of yore and be done with it, but then we're stuck to small format. - Use the basic S design with mirror box and all but put a film transport mechanism where the sensor is now. This could be roll film or small format so we could make some kind of mini Hasselblad X-Pan with 24x45mm. - Somehow use the L-Mount all the way into the corners and get a 30x45mm negative and have lots of other lens options available for analog shooting? Of course, someone would still have to make a negative holder in 30x45 for my Epson V750 scanner 🙂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted August 24, 2019 Share #20 Posted August 24, 2019 what about using an old Hasselblad film back that could attach to the S... similar in design to the old DMR. Just a speculation to keep this speculative thread alive!!!! Albert Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294624-idea-film-body-for-s-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=3804925'>More sharing options...
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