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49 minutes ago, kentishrev said:

If it’s a reference to the wandering focus point then it’s not a lens issue.  My CL does this all the time (and others have complained too). Mine also switces to ‘touch AF’ on start up, but not every time.  

Does that happen after you have used the app? My CL then resets to touch AF. Not very practical, but i do not use the app very often. So in way, it may be a user issue 😎

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8 hours ago, Photon42 said:

Does that happen after you have used the app? My CL then resets to touch AF. Not very practical, but i do not use the app very often. So in way, it may be a user issue 😎

I hadn’t made the connection between using the app and the camera deciding to reset the AF. I only use the app to download, so I’ve not used the AF.  If that’s the case, it’s very impractical.

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Something that might help: I have user profiles set for each of the lenses I use regularly. Before I go shooting, I pick the one for the lens I'm going to use and thereby clear any changes that the app, a previous session, etc, might have set. 

Reasoning: I don't have any AF lenses so have never had this particular problem, but if you have a user config for how you want the camera to operate and just pick it once when you're setting out to make photos, it clears up any ambiguities in how the camera might operate. If I'm using the app to remote control the camera and make photos, the next thing I plan to do with the camera without the app is the next session in this context. :)

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I can certainly live with it. I would probably fancy a solution where the touch AF gets activated only once the user actually touches for AF. Everything else gets involves getting either the app or der the camera's firmware into maintaining a state, which also can go potentially wrong.

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There have been a number of discussions of what to lock on the back of the camera so that things don't change without notice.  For the CL, Leica seems to have two modes -- lock the top wheels, separately or individually and only unlock them with a hard to produce touch control or deep in the menu -- or lock everything (short press on the left wheel button, I think, have to try since i can't remember which action is long press and which is short without doing the experiment).  The first one has no obvious purpose that I can figure out.  The second is for handing the camera around the table in a restaurant, sort of M10-D mode.  I think what is needed is an optional return to center setting for the AF/magnification point after every shot, otherwise after a power off or standby shutdown.

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